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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 07:52 AM
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My Model 3 has an 82 kwh battery pack and gets a little over 300 miles. Max battery I would ever consider in an EV would be 100 kwh. Throwing a huge battery pack to compensate for inefficiency is just pure laziness IMO and just creates more problems
Why? I would consider 150kwh battery for my Model S.

It is already efficient, and that would make it 300+ miles highway range monster (at average of 100 MPH). Not to mention it would get half of the battery full at insane speeds.

I very welcome our next gen batteries.
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Why? I would consider 150kwh battery for my Model S.

It is already efficient, and that would make it 300+ miles highway range monster (at average of 100 MPH). Not to mention it would get half of the battery full at insane speeds.

I very welcome our next gen batteries.
That's absolutely true, the Model S is already super efficient, but 150kWh adds too much weight and expense. Plus it adds charging time. I would rather continue making EV's more efficient as well as continue evolving battery tech than put in bigger, heavier battery packs
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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 10:21 AM
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That's absolutely true, the Model S is already super efficient, but 150kWh adds too much weight and expense. Plus it adds charging time. I would rather continue making EV's more efficient as well as continue evolving battery tech than put in bigger, heavier battery packs
It is what it is - while 150kwh might be a little bit too much, around 120kwh is pretty good.

It also significantly speeds up charging actually. So if you are looking to speed up your 200 mile range speed of charge, it will go much faster if you have larger battery. IE my Model S with 95kwh battery charges 60 kwh faster than my Model 3 with 79kwh.
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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 10:29 AM
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The perfect battery size is, of course, 131 kWh usable out of a total capacity of 143.4 kWh.
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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 10:34 AM
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And yes my ER battery also charges at a faster rate than the SR battery you can also get on a Lightning. That's one thing that helps on the massive GM batteries. They still take ages to charge, but relatively speaking will tend to charge faster than smaller batteries.
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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
It is what it is - while 150kwh might be a little bit too much, around 120kwh is pretty good.

It also significantly speeds up charging actually. So if you are looking to speed up your 200 mile range speed of charge, it will go much faster if you have larger battery. IE my Model S with 95kwh battery charges 60 kwh faster than my Model 3 with 79kwh.
120 kWh is definitely doable
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Old Jul 28, 2025 | 12:14 PM
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And yes my ER battery also charges at a faster rate than the SR battery you can also get on a Lightning. That's one thing that helps on the massive GM batteries. They still take ages to charge, but relatively speaking will tend to charge faster than smaller batteries.
Agreed, should be able to hold peak charging speeds longer. With the larger batteries, you have to switch from % added which most of us probably think of to range added which is a shift.
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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Not sure if anyone here has seen the Cadillac Vistiq in-person, but man it looks ridiculously good..! Great proportions, looks like a slightly smaller Escalade IQ but with all the same beautiful design. A buddy of mine here just got one a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful inside and out. The ONLY thing I don't like about the styling is the back windows (not the very rear window - I'm referring to the ones slightly behind where the rear passengers are sitting). They put some type of weird design on the glass - I'm not sure if that's part of an option package and/or if it can be removed. You can see what I'm referring to in the pic.

Interesting how there is no "frunk". I actually use mine a decent amount (takeout food as the top use case so it doesn't make the rest of the car smell like food). The Vistiq has a ton of additional usable interior space, especially compared to my MYP, but I still like the idea of a frunk in an EV. Other than those 2 things, and without driving it, it might be pretty darn close to perfect.

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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 08:38 AM
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I haven't seen it in person but agreed they look GREAT!
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
Not sure if anyone here has seen the Cadillac Vistiq in-person, but man it looks ridiculously good..! Great proportions, looks like a slightly smaller Escalade IQ but with all the same beautiful design. A buddy of mine here just got one a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful inside and out. The ONLY thing I don't like about the styling is the back windows (not the very rear window - I'm referring to the ones slightly behind where the rear passengers are sitting). They put some type of weird design on the glass - I'm not sure if that's part of an option package and/or if it can be removed. You can see what I'm referring to in the pic.

Interesting how there is no "frunk". I actually use mine a decent amount (takeout food as the top use case so it doesn't make the rest of the car smell like food). The Vistiq has a ton of additional usable interior space, especially compared to my MYP, but I still like the idea of a frunk in an EV. Other than those 2 things, and without driving it, it might be pretty darn close to perfect.
Haven't seen a Vistiq in person yet. Not sure why GM hasn't done a Frunk..even my daughters Bolt doesn't have one. F-150 has one, R1T/R1S etc. Not that hard to do when you don't have a big giant engine
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Its laziness in design. The Escalade IQ has a frunk.
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 09:23 AM
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The frunk on my Lightning is absolutely massive. We use it all the time. It has four 120v power outlets, and a sub frunk that can also be used as a cooler. Easily one of our favorite features. If an EV did not have a frunk, it would cause us to think twice about getting it because of the amount of usage ours gets.
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Same, I would really want a frunk.
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Speed vs Range tested by Car and Driver

STEADY-STATE CRUISING SPEED THAT EQUATES TO EPA COMBINED RANGE

  • Lucid Air Pure: 47 mph
  • Kia EV9: 66 mph
  • Subaru Forester: 77 mph

“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”

I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Speed vs Range tested by Car and Driver

STEADY-STATE CRUISING SPEED THAT EQUATES TO EPA COMBINED RANGE

  • Lucid Air Pure: 47 mph
  • Kia EV9: 66 mph
  • Subaru Forester: 77 mph

“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”

I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
On trips I average 80 mph. You are focusing way, way to much on on driving high speeds. I average 70 to 75 mph every day in both my Model Y and 3 and experience very little range loss. There is range loss for sure, but it's extremely insignificant, IMO
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