Drive it back to back with Rivian R1T and we'll talk

 

I have driven both actually. I’d rather have the Rivian but I can afford it and I want an EV.

Again, a Rivian costs twice as much and most people still don’t want a full EV.

 

You're not going to convince me that vehicle is exciting. Not one bit, especially with those engines shredding internally

Now this is exciting


New or used, I'll take this over any Toyota any day of the year

 

I don’t think any Tesla is especially exciting either. I also wouldn’t call the Rivian “exciting”. Like it or not that 4Runner is just not a “boring” vehicle. It’s a fun truck. I understand the appeal of both vehicles.

You said yourself you wouldn’t buy a $100k vehicle anyways so the argument about the Rivian is moot, No EV exists that is as capable and interesting as that 4 Runner for $50k.

 

This is a good looking truck!!

Wouldn’t trade my Toyota for it.

 

You have an older one, pre TTV6? Plus your use for your truck is different from what a typical Rivian user uses their truck for. The owner of this one goes camping frequently, but doesn't tow or use it as a work truck, although it does both well

 

I was going to ask, can it tow? I’m about to YouTube it. I’m sure it can tow but so far I think the Silverado EV is the towing champ when it comes to EVs.

 

If you're regularly towing heavy loads long distances, no EV will be a match for you at this point

 

Silverado EV has impressive range but unhitching to charge could be a hassle especially in nasty weather.

 

For your usage scenario, your truck is better suited because you tow long distances. But from an enjoyment perspective, you can't beat quad motors with over 800 HP available instantly

 

Agree. Chargers with a pull-through option are still few and far between. Also, the general rule of thumb I've seen used for towing is to assume a 50% reduction in range.

 

Just to be accurate, the Tacoma does not have the TTV6. They are all 4 cyl now.

 

That's even worse LOL. Dear God now I really wouldn't buy one to save my life

 

Imagine one charging spot left or the prefect spot to charge your spot and while you’re unhitching your trailer, another car swoops in and takes that spot. Guess you can carry an orange cone and stick in that spot while you’re unhitching your trailer.

I thought he meant twin turbo V6.

But yes I have V8 Tundra

 

You don’t have to want one yourself to understand and acknowledge its appeal to those who do want them.

I don’t want any Tesla, but I absolutely understand the appeal.