Lucid is the most efficient EV and has better motor tech and range than any Tesla. Doesn't weight 9,000 pounds.

 

Someone scored a deal!! Only 35k miles!! Clean carfax!! Missed the used tax credit by $600😲

 

Now that's a deal. If I was buying a car for my son, this would be it 👍

 

This has been repeated many times before, but let me put it out here again. BEV's are currently not for everyone. If you frequently take long trips and are looking to get to your destination as quick as possible, you should probably look elsewhere. Since the average US driver drives less than 40 miles a day, that's not a concern for most people. Oh, and us owners are already well aware of range loss at higher speeds. I'm sure you'll be posting something similar once the temperature drops.

It seems obvious from your posts that you're not ready to own a BEV as your only means of transportation. I wasn't back when we purchased our Y, so I kept my ICE pickup. I'm not giving that up, since I now tow a travel trailer and no way is a BEV ready for that over long distances, yet. Technology takes time to advance. I have no doubt that in the next few years, charge times and range will not be something most will be concerned with.

 

Missed a lot today. Anyway shout-out to the Brewster NY supercharger that has an offset charger so I can plug in without blocking anyone

 

Ignore the math on the poor charging curve. It's 100F, I'm nearly at 80%, and I'm getting throttled, but I found this breakdown interesting. AC is running full bore right now

 

Why would I care what the vehicle weighs if it has the performance I want? Not "defending" it, I just don't care either way.

 

607 miles at 60mph (not realistic)
482 miles at 70mph
I want to see 80mph range

That’s my thing, I’m trying to get there quick as possible preferably faster than what GPS initially projects. Waze has a neat setting it projects your ETA based on previous driving times.

We don’t fall in that average driver category.
Cooler temps = boost weather

 

At some point the penny might just drop that your 10 hour and what have to be colostomy bag-enabled non-stop marathon drives are very much the exception and are absolutely not the norm.

Most people don't do that. And auto manufacturers should never design for, build for or prioritize these extreme edge cases.

 

Totally agree. No way I'm going to do a 4 to 8 hour drive without a bio break and leg stretching. I can easily live with two quick 10 to 15 minute charging stops. Gotta giant bladder and excellent circulation that allows you to plow on for 10 hours...more power to you

Us older gentlemen need our breaks 🤣

 

I only had a 2 hour drive today but took a break in the middle because I had a lot of coffee. I stopped by the James Gandolfini service station which is run by AppleGreen but no chargers yet

 

He is also missing that faster speeds and a few short stops - remember, when normal people are likely to stop anyway - is usually the fastest way to travel in an EV. You don't have to drive unreasonably slowly in an EV to push range or reduce the number of charges. That is often the slowest way to travel.

 

My average travel speed is about 80 mph when I hit highway 5. If I drive 70, 80, or even 90 mph I'm still going to be doing the same two stops, I just may get to the charger with a little less SoC. And the algorithm for the mapping software will compensate by either having me charge a little longer or stop at a closer SC. But the time will remain pretty much the same, I might shave off 15 minutes or so. But driving 90 mph also has it's other risks...getting stopped for speeding. And I believe 90 will get a reckless driving ticket

 

Absolutely. I'm pretty sure my San Diego/Bay Area trips - the best part of 500 miles - don't take any longer, even in the truck. If I leave with a full charge I can get away with two relatively short stops of 20 mins or so - and I'd have stopped then anyway. Last time I did three as I had to stop to send some email and I arrived with more charge to spare than I took on in the extra stop. If you're riding solo you also get HOV access, which from LA south makes a big difference.

 

Yeah the most I drive total on any trip is 5-6 hours. Beyond that I fly. I always stop at least once to go to the bathroom anymore but thats a quick stop and I'm on my way. Stopping for 20 minutes isn't the end of the world but if I could make it 350 miles and not have to charge I would love that.