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He is also missing that faster speeds and few short stops - remember, when normal people are likely to stop anyway - is usually the fastest way to travel in an EV. You don't to drive unreasonably slowly in an EV to push range or reduce the number of charges. That is often the slowest way to travel.
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Absolutely. I'm pretty sure my San Diego/Bay Area trips - the best part of 500 miles - don't take any longer, even in the truck. If I leave with a full charge I can get away with two relatively short stops of 20 mins or so - and I'd have stopped then anyway. Last time I did three as I had to stop to send some email and I arrived with more charge to spare than I took on in the extra stop. If you're riding solo you also get HOV access, which from LA south makes a big difference.
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Yeah the most I drive total on any trip is 5-6 hours. Beyond that I fly. I always stop at least once to go to the bathroom anymore but thats a quick stop and I'm on my way. Stopping for 20 minutes isn't the end of the world but if I could make it 350 miles and not have to charge I would love that.
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How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
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How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
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How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
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Check out A Better Route Planner. It does require some setup to get best results. With mine, it gets live real-time data from the vehicle via a Bluetooth LE dongle connected to the OBDII port.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
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I'd suggest maybe getting up what looks like the best en route charger as your initial destination, and then once charged route from their to your actual destination? Or set up a trip with stops/waypoints and make the first waypoint your preferred en route charger?
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I agree. Use A Better Route Planner and play with the variables until you get something more palatable
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Actually, I'm seriously considering leaving Cali, although I love this place, it's becoming way too expensive. A discussion for another time and place
I will say though, I will not move anywhere that is not EV friendly
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https://motorillustrated.com/lexus-d...models/158553/
And just like that Toyota has decided Lexus will no longer full speed ahead to ev land.
You shall enjoy tinny i4s standard, and pay more for v6s and hybrids. Lexus will lean into being more Toyota Plus.
If you want a v8 pony up for the GR Supercar.
And just like that Toyota has decided Lexus will no longer full speed ahead to ev land.
You shall enjoy tinny i4s standard, and pay more for v6s and hybrids. Lexus will lean into being more Toyota Plus.
If you want a v8 pony up for the GR Supercar.
Speed vs Range tested by Car and Driver
“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”
I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
STEADY-STATE CRUISING SPEED THAT EQUATES TO EPA COMBINED RANGE
- Lucid Air Pure: 47 mph
- Kia EV9: 66 mph
- Subaru Forester: 77 mph
“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”
I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
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I met with a seller today who is originally from CA and we were having that same discussion, about people moving from CA because of cost. Insurance specifically is a huge issue.