General EV Conversation
Lead Lap
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From: Maryland
How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
Lead Lap
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How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
Lead Lap
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From: San Diego, CA
How timely that we are talking about trips in an EV (not CA because that would be a no brainer). I’m taking my son this weekend to look at Penn State. It’s about 4 hours one way and we plan to go visit for two hours and the head back home. My wife has the Cayenne this weekend so I can’t take that so it’s either the Tucson or the Plaid but I put in the Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner and it has me going a little past Penn State and charging for 40 minutes. I don’t really want to do that so I’m wondering what alternative trip planners that are better. If the supercharger was on campus it would be ideal but going out of my way and charging for 40 minutes is just annoying.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
Lead Lap
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From: Maryland
Check out A Better Route Planner. It does require some setup to get best results. With mine, it gets live real-time data from the vehicle via a Bluetooth LE dongle connected to the OBDII port.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
Apple Maps and Google Maps also support EV routing.
I don't know the chargers on your route, but I'd personally be looking to see if the route works with a couple of shorter stops rather than one 40 min stop, unless the 40m stop was somewhere I'd stop anyway.
Lead Lap
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From: San Diego, CA
I'd suggest maybe getting up what looks like the best en route charger as your initial destination, and then once charged route from their to your actual destination? Or set up a trip with stops/waypoints and make the first waypoint your preferred en route charger?
Lexus Champion
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From: California
I agree. Use A Better Route Planner and play with the variables until you get something more palatable
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Lexus Champion
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From: California
Actually, I'm seriously considering leaving Cali, although I love this place, it's becoming way too expensive. A discussion for another time and place
I will say though, I will not move anywhere that is not EV friendly
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Racer
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https://motorillustrated.com/lexus-d...models/158553/
And just like that Toyota has decided Lexus will no longer full speed ahead to ev land.
You shall enjoy tinny i4s standard, and pay more for v6s and hybrids. Lexus will lean into being more Toyota Plus.
If you want a v8 pony up for the GR Supercar.
And just like that Toyota has decided Lexus will no longer full speed ahead to ev land.
You shall enjoy tinny i4s standard, and pay more for v6s and hybrids. Lexus will lean into being more Toyota Plus.
If you want a v8 pony up for the GR Supercar.
Speed vs Range tested by Car and Driver
“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”
I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
STEADY-STATE CRUISING SPEED THAT EQUATES TO EPA COMBINED RANGE
- Lucid Air Pure: 47 mph
- Kia EV9: 66 mph
- Subaru Forester: 77 mph
“When talking about highway speeds, the difference between 55 mph and 75 mph is a loss of 88 miles of range in the Lucid Air and 109 miles in the Kia EV9. Bumping up the cruising speed from 70 to 80 mph reduces the Air's range by about 40 miles and the EV9's by roughly 45.”
I’m an 80s mph roadtrip driver. What about you guys and gals?
Lexus Fanatic
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I met with a seller today who is originally from CA and we were having that same discussion, about people moving from CA because of cost. Insurance specifically is a huge issue.
Lead Lap
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California is the world's 4th largest economy. The opportunity here is absolutely unparalleled. Life in the Bay Area and parts of SoCal is expensive, sure, but CA is massive and it covers all the bases from very affordable to insanely unaffordable. If you want to reduce cost, you can. You don't have to live somewhere where a relatively small house built in the 1960s can be the wrong side of $3 to $4million. I just sold my relatively small house built in the 1960s and moved south. We bought a custom home roughly twice as big as our Bay Area house with about four times more land for a lot less money. California is what you make it.
Lexus Champion
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From: California
California is the world's 4th largest economy. The opportunity here is absolutely unparalleled. Life in the Bay Area and parts of SoCal is expensive, sure, but CA is massive and it covers all the bases from very affordable to insanely unaffordable. If you want to reduce cost, you can. You don't have to live somewhere where a relatively small house built in the 1960s can be the wrong side of $3 to $4million. I just sold my relatively small house built in the 1960s and moved south. We bought a custom home roughly twice as big as our Bay Area house with about four times more land for a lot less money. California is what you make it.
Since I'm an EV owner, it is definitely without doubt the best place to own an EV. Hands down. I hear what others on this forum go thru taking trips, and no thank you
Lead Lap
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May not apply to you (yet!) but Prop 19 lets you transfer your existing Prop 13 tax base to your new home if you or your spouse is 55 or over. We bought in the Bay Area in 2001, so our tax basis was a lot lower than current market value. Our property taxes actually went down when we moved. Our carry forward Prop 13 tax basis was less than the new home value, so it because our new basis, and we now have fewer parcel taxes. We actually pay less than the people we bought the house from paid and less than we paid in the Bay Area.
