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Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 19,655
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From: California
Last night my friend showed me his Lucid Air he leased...couldn't take pics of it as it was too dark. I asked him what are his thoughts about it. Loved: fast, extremely efficient, very comfortable and range of nearly 400 miles. Hated: said the software sucks, front motors have this high pitched whine at low speeds, and when he supercharges it, the fans run so high it sounds like a jet engine.
He said he put in a call to Lucid customer support and suggested they fix their software, which is pretty buggy according to him
He said he put in a call to Lucid customer support and suggested they fix their software, which is pretty buggy according to him
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 19,655
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From: California
Here’s how many EVs were sold in the U.S. last year by model
EV models sold in the U.S. in 2024
- Tesla Model Y: 372,613
- Tesla Model 3: 189,903
- Ford Mustang Mach-E: 51,745
- Hyundai Ioniq 5: 44,400
- Tesla Cybertruck: 38,965
- Ford F-150 Lightning: 33,510
- Honda Prologue: 33,017
- Chevy Equinox EV: 28,874
- Cadillac Lyriq: 28,402
- Rivian R1S: 26,934
- BMW i4: 23,403
- Chevy Blazer EV: 23,115
- Kia EV9: 22,017
- Kia EV6: 21,715
- Tesla Model X: 19,855
- Nissan Ariya: 19,798
- Toyota BZ4X: 18,570
- Volkswagen ID.4: 17,021
- BMW iX: 15,383
- GMC Hummer Truck/SUV: 13,993
- Rivian EDV500/700: 13,423
- Ford E-Transit: 12,610
- Subaru Solterra: 12,447
- Tesla Model S: 12,426
- Kia Niro: 12,367
- Hyundai Ioniq 6: 12,264
- Mercedes EQE: 11,660
- Audi Q4 e-tron: 11,356
- Nissan Leaf: 11,226
- Rivian R1T: 11,085
- Lexus RZ: 9,697
- Mercedes EQB: 8,885
- BMW i5: 8,763
- Chevy Bolt EV/EUV: 8,627
- Audi Q8 e-tron: 7,936
- Chevy Silverado EV: 7,428
- Acura ZDX: 7,391
- Mercedes EQS: 6,963
- Hyundai Kona EV: 5,063
- Porsche Taycan: 4,747
- BMW i7: 3,431
- Jaguar I-Pace: 3,304
- Mini Cooper: 3,118
- Volvo XC40: 2,995
- Genesis GV70: 2,976
- Audi e-tron: 2,894
- Genesis GV60: 2,866
- GMC Sierra EV: 1,788
- Porsche Macan: 1,739
- Brightdrop Zevo 600/400: 1,529
- Volvo C40: 1,420
- Volkswagen ID.Buzz: 1,162
- Audi Q6 e-tron: 966
- Fiat 500e: 929
- Volvo EX90: 749
- Cadillac Escalade EV: 670
- Mini Countryman: 549
- Mercedes G-Class: 455
- Genesis G80: 397
- Jeep Wagoneer: 231
- Volvo EX30: 229
- Mercedes E-Sprinter: 191
Top 10 BEV sellers in the U.S. in 2024
- Tesla: 633,762
- GM: 112,897 (including Chevy, Cadillac and GMC)
- Ford: 97,865
- Hyundai: 61,727
- Kia: 56,099
- Rivian: 51,442
- Honda: 33,017
- Nissan: 31,024
- Mercedes-Benz: 28,154
- Audi: 23,152
https://www.teslarati.com/how-many-e...us-2024-model/
Lead Lap
Joined: May 2010
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From: San Diego, CA
On the ID.Buzz, it's the same story here. It's not just that the pricing is off, most of the dealers around here are still looking for ADM on top of the already questionable MSRP.
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2019
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From: Kentucky
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 25,962
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From: Alberta
Hey @Elon, when's that Tesla frunk pizza warmer coming out? Asking for a friend who's currently using the rear heated seats of his EQS to transport his precious cargo. (Yes, my EQS has a hatchback, and it is superior.) Advantage: Mercedes. #EQS #Tesla #PizzaWars #FrunkFail #HeatedSeats
Lead Lap
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,992
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From: Maryland
Nah, I'm happy with them but they'll all be phased out eventually 1 for sure this year.
To the chicken little small brained haters here's a list of Toyota's I've owned.
1971 Corolla
1971 Crown (maybe my favourite Toyota ever)
1973 Corona I-6 5-speed (GREAT car)
1976 Celica
1977 Celica
1977 Corolla
1979 Celica Supra
1981 Corolla
1981 Toyota Pickup
1982 Supra
1984 Celica GTS
1984 Toyota Pickup (same as in Back to the Future)
1986 Corolla AE86
1987 Camry 5-speed (multiple) *
1987 Cressida (sold it shortly after purchase, big regret)
1987 MR2
1988 MR2
1990 Camry Wagon*
1991 MR2
1990 Camry V6 5-speed*
1993 Camry*
1995 Camry V6
1998 Sienna*
1998 RAV4*
2000 ES300*
2004 LS (bought and sold, purchased to flip it)
2001 Camry
2006 Highlander*
2009 RAV4*
2018 Sienna*
*current
And some I've forgotten.
To the chicken little small brained haters here's a list of Toyota's I've owned.
1971 Corolla
1971 Crown (maybe my favourite Toyota ever)
1973 Corona I-6 5-speed (GREAT car)
1976 Celica
1977 Celica
1977 Corolla
1979 Celica Supra
1981 Corolla
1981 Toyota Pickup
1982 Supra
1984 Celica GTS
1984 Toyota Pickup (same as in Back to the Future)
1986 Corolla AE86
1987 Camry 5-speed (multiple) *
1987 Cressida (sold it shortly after purchase, big regret)
1987 MR2
1988 MR2
1990 Camry Wagon*
1991 MR2
1990 Camry V6 5-speed*
1993 Camry*
1995 Camry V6
1998 Sienna*
1998 RAV4*
2000 ES300*
2004 LS (bought and sold, purchased to flip it)
2001 Camry
2006 Highlander*
2009 RAV4*
2018 Sienna*
*current
And some I've forgotten.
Last night my friend showed me his Lucid Air he leased...couldn't take pics of it as it was too dark. I asked him what are his thoughts about it. Loved: fast, extremely efficient, very comfortable and range of nearly 400 miles. Hated: said the software sucks, front motors have this high pitched whine at low speeds, and when he supercharges it, the fans run so high it sounds like a jet engine.
He said he put in a call to Lucid customer support and suggested they fix their software, which is pretty buggy according to him
He said he put in a call to Lucid customer support and suggested they fix their software, which is pretty buggy according to him
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Lexus Fanatic
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From: Alberta
Well that's one way to prevent phantom braking.
holy crap Ford 
According to NHTSA’s findings, Ford’s Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), a key component of BlueCruise, is programmed to ignore stationary objects when the vehicle is traveling at 62 mph (100km/h) or higher. This decision was made to prevent false detections at long distances that could lead to unnecessary braking, also known as phantom braking.
However, investigators have found that this system limitation may be a critical factor in the fatal crashes and several non-fatal incidents involving Ford vehicles.
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However, investigators have found that this system limitation may be a critical factor in the fatal crashes and several non-fatal incidents involving Ford vehicles.
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I like Lucid Air but my wife doesn’t like the way they look at all. Way more luxurious on the inside compared to Tesla but what I don’t like is they put skinny wheels/tires on there that are really sunken in for such a big car. I would need to get new wheels with wider tires and better offsets if I had one but then I’m sure the mileage/range would drop off a lot. Would still be worth it.
Phantom braking doesn't seem so bad anymore.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 19,655
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From: California
As far as Phantom braking, haven't had it at all happen. I was coming home yesterday from the East Bay (Walnut Creek) after meeting up with an old friend, we had walked around downtown, so going home I was tired. Put it in FSD and the car drove the 680 freeway, which is constantly under construction and has winding roads with no issues. I only took control when reaching the exit
I haven't used the latest version of FSD much since we usually take the Rivian or the Ody, but with my old 3P, the phantom braking was mostly random overpass shadows. There was one area where it would consistently stomp the brakes - part of the highway was previously under construction and the Tesla nav wasn't updated when construction was complete. It would jump from a 65 mph speed limit to a 35 mph and hit the brakes. I just learned to disengage as I was approaching and reengage after a quarter mile or so.
Lexus Fanatic
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Posts: 25,962
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From: Alberta
