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the mercedes i showed was what was being 'asked' for it... no doubt it sold for less than that too, so the difference probably wasn't very significant at all.
so bayeaux's posted straw man (100k new right? and an auction not even finished) and your negativity as to what "we" know, are what "we" expect.

wait 3 years.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Jul 22, 2025 at 06:26 PM.
the auction closed at $47k so that's 72% of original cost. which isn't 'terrible'.
the mercedes i showed was what was being 'asked' for it... no doubt it sold for less than that too, so the difference probably wasn't very significant at all.
so bayeaux's posted straw man (100k new right? and an auction not even finished) and your negativity as to what "we" know, are what "we" expect.
i know people who bought them in recent years and didn't keep them long. the 'reality' of owning it was not like they imagined... noisy, rough ride, not that useful compare to many other trucks. but yeah, it's reliable.

wait 3 years.

the auction closed at $47k so that's 72% of original cost. which isn't 'terrible'.
the mercedes i showed was what was being 'asked' for it... no doubt it sold for less than that too, so the difference probably wasn't very significant at all.
so bayeaux's posted straw man (100k new right? and an auction not even finished) and your negativity as to what "we" know, are what "we" expect.
i know people who bought them in recent years and didn't keep them long. the 'reality' of owning it was not like they imagined... noisy, rough ride, not that useful compare to many other trucks. but yeah, it's reliable.

wait 3 years.

I’m sorry I jumped the gun. There was 20 min left on the auction in which the price increased by $4k.
Seem like the new owner got a good deal.
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Leave me the Targa 4s for boring folks like myself, and throw in a new Taco TRD with its turbo spool snorkel piped directly into the cabin!
As a toy hauler to keep in a vacation home these are super ideal.
Last edited by Framestead; Jul 23, 2025 at 06:06 AM.
Being happy with what’s available you can afford is an important thing in life.
Gotta pay to play! lol
the mercedes i showed was what was being 'asked' for it... no doubt it sold for less than that too, so the difference probably wasn't very significant at all.
so bayeaux's posted straw man (100k new right? and an auction not even finished) and your negativity as to what "we" know, are what "we" expect.
Im not being negative, but EVs tend to have considerably lower resale than ICEs, that’s just a fact. Comparing it to an S Class doesn’t make much sense since as you described it’s a much more expensive car for one. Compare an S Class to an EQS, the EQS has much greater depreciation (highest in the industry, actually). The low resale value of my car is a reason why I lease. Low resale value of EVs is why I personally would only lease them.
Remember almost certainly both my next cars will be EVs. I’m not making an anti EV argument.

no, haven’t driven one… i typically only drive something i have some interest in.

no, haven’t driven one… i typically only drive something i have some interest in.
4Runner is the same way. It’s trucky and blocky and old school, they look great modified up into a cool
rig. Lots of fun.
Honestly in the EV world Rivians kind of have a similar appeal.
Last edited by SW17LS; Jul 23, 2025 at 06:05 AM.

New Toyota's on the other hand, Ambien on steroids. No thanks. If I ever picked up another Toyota/Lexus product, it would be a 10th gen IS350, 2010 and on ISF, or IS500











