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I asked Grok about this, Waymo defaults to a fail safe mode when edge cases are detected. In this case it literally stops in the middle of the road and waits for human intervention. The trigger was no traffic signals not lack of connectivity, although that also may contribute in some scenarios. Hard to argue with stats, Waymo is much safer than the average driver but where the cars drive is carefully curated. I would be beyond pissed if my taxi stopped in the middle of the road and I couldn't get out of the car. Sitting duck.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
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I asked Grok about this, Waymo defaults to a fail safe mode when edge cases are detected. In this case it literally stops in the middle of the road and waits for human intervention. The trigger was no traffic signals not lack of connectivity, although that also may contribute in some scenarios. Hard to argue with stats, Waymo is much safer than the average driver but where the cars drive is carefully curated. I would be beyond pissed if my taxi stopped in the middle of the road and I couldn't get out of the car. Sitting duck.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
It was an interesting night in the city, and people are still out of power almost 24 hours later
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Treats it as a 4-way stop.
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There are numerous accounts of this happening, a simple "woman trapped in waymo" search will show you.
Treats it as a 4-way stop.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2002699317409186219
Treats it as a 4-way stop.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2002699317409186219
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I asked Grok about this, Waymo defaults to a fail safe mode when edge cases are detected. In this case it literally stops in the middle of the road and waits for human intervention. The trigger was no traffic signals not lack of connectivity, although that also may contribute in some scenarios. Hard to argue with stats, Waymo is much safer than the average driver but where the cars drive is carefully curated. I would be beyond pissed if my taxi stopped in the middle of the road and I couldn't get out of the car. Sitting duck.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
FSD will just keep driving until the destination was reached.
Just as in the future, Teslas robotaxi will not require safety drivers.
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Ford sucks so hard for doing this.
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/for...rollaway-risk/
What Ford is doing here is cycling the mechanism over and over hoping this means it cycles into the correct position.
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/for...rollaway-risk/
Ford traced the problem to binding between internal components within the Integrated Park Module, which can prevent the system from fully engaging Park. This binding is linked to manufacturing variations and increased friction between the affected parts.
If the condition occurs, drivers may notice that the Park indicator does not illuminate, along with a wrench warning light and a shift system fault message appearing in the instrument cluster. Ford says it is not aware of any accidents or injuries related to the issue at this time.
Rather than replacing hardware, Ford plans to resolve the issue through an over-the-air (OTA) software update. The update is designed to detect and address the binding condition within the park module, allowing Park to engage properly.
If the condition occurs, drivers may notice that the Park indicator does not illuminate, along with a wrench warning light and a shift system fault message appearing in the instrument cluster. Ford says it is not aware of any accidents or injuries related to the issue at this time.
Rather than replacing hardware, Ford plans to resolve the issue through an over-the-air (OTA) software update. The update is designed to detect and address the binding condition within the park module, allowing Park to engage properly.
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There are numerous accounts of this happening, a simple "woman trapped in waymo" search will show you.
Treats it as a 4-way stop.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2002699317409186219
Treats it as a 4-way stop.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2002699317409186219
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