I drive it more than I expected to drive it. Really fun car to drive. About 1100 miles a month since I bought it. So far, between L2 charging when I go in the office and L1 charging at home and supercharging on long trips, I haven't had any issues. I just have to keep it plugged in all the time, which is what Tesla strongly recommends anyway. ABC. Always Be Charging. And if I ever get so low that it will take days to recharge at home and I won't be in the office for a while, I have a supercharger less than 10 minutes away to catchup. So, the L2 at home really doesn't buy me much for the expense.

 

If I had an EV I would want a level 2 charger at home, oh yeah.

The convenience alone would be worth it to me.
It's a one time expense.

I've upgraded the power on almost every home I've owned over the years, usually to upgrade appliances or put a hot tub in or install extra outlets or whatever.

 

If I didn't have the free L2 charging at work, it would probably be a bigger issue. Or if I had multiple EVs. But $1500 is $1500. No need to spend that to do charge really fast for an hour or two and sit there the rest of the night.

 

I had to delay my rock slider delivery for the R1S because I was going to be on vacation when they arrived. Just got the shipping notification today and my UPS guy is going to hate me. Looking like 130 pounds of metal heading my way

 

Set off on a 330 mile one way road trip. Getting on highway a blue dual motor model 3 passed going in same direction. Speed limit was 70 I was running 75. Then speed limit jumped to 75 so I ran 81-82mph. The Tesla got so far ahead it disappeared. Well 45 miles later the Model 3 reappears with all 4 windows rolled halfway down. So I pass it. Then I slowed down to 77-78 to see if he would take the next exit 2-3 miles ahead and sure enough it did. There’s Tesla chargers on that exit. The next Tesla chargers is 54 miles away.

We took the RAV Prime. HV mode on highway. Saved EV range for once we reach the hotel. We made the drive nonstop.

 

I would have still taken the Tesla over the RAV4 Prime knowing all of this

 

Then saw this sexy beast. I started running 85-87mph up front then she decided it wasn’t fast enough so she jumped in front and we ran with each other for around 45 miles until I believe she exit before I did. The speed didn’t get lower than 85ish unless came upon slower traffic. The way she was driving no was she was using FSD.

 

Too small for family road trips but I will take a model S‼️

I hope you can test drive a Prime. It’s fun in HV mode. I don’t get to drive in HV more often. Always in EV mode around town.

 

They were probably using Traffic Aware cruise control, which is what I use when I'm driving on the freeway. FSD is not aggressive, and wouldn't make aggressive lane changes. Any interventions would turn it off.

Back to your last post, on trips to SoCal I could easily take the Sienna, it has a smooth as silk 3.5L V6, is quiet and roomy, and can do more 350 miles on a full tank. If I wanted to go straight to my brothers house, only 1 gas stop, plus bathroom would be no more than 20 minutes (10 if travelling alone). The Model Y on the other hand is two stops equalling about 30 minutes. Add 5 minutes getting off the freeway and backing into the chargers. With all this I've just mentioned, I hardly take the Sienna on trips unless we have more than 5 people and or have to carry a lot of stuff. I always prefer the Model Y, even with having to make the extra stop

 

Being too small is a different issue, when I run into that problem I take the Sienna. I have driven the RAV4 hybrid (rental in San Antonio) and it's nice like all Toyota's, drives nice and is quiet, but if I'm being honest, I like EV's better where you have full range of the torque they offer..until the battery runs out

 

i'm guessing your L2 charging at work is always available when you're there?
either way, nice that you have that, but i would not own an ev if i didn't have a home charger. so nice not to have to think about it when i'm out.

 

i'd be surprised if a model y didn't have way more room than a rav4.

 

According to Truecar, Model Y has up to 30.2 ft cargo space with seats in place and up to 76 ft with second row seats folded while the RAV4 has 37.6 ft with seats in place and up to a maximum of 76 ft with second row folded. Model Y has more legroom and second row legroom with 41.8 ft in the front row vs 41 ft for the RAV4, in the rear Model Y has 40.5 ft legroom in the rear while RAV4 has 37.8 ft

https://www.truecar.com/compare/tesl...s-toyota-rav4/

 

Prime has 83hp more than the regular hybrid. Have both at home and it’s very noticeable difference. Like going from a standard Tesla to dual motor/performance. The throttle response in the Prime is instant because like EVs it’s battery assisted and also with the ECVT there’s no downshifting gears. It’s not as quiet as an EV because well it has an engine Running the speeds we were today I was still averaging over 33mpg. It was 33.x I forgot the next number. Won’t get a true mpg when I refuel because I’ve been running in EV mode around town and I didn’t look at the current miles in HV mode before I switched over to EV mode.

I was comparing it to the Model 3 I saw on highway. I’ve rented two of them and it was a tight fit for my family. I recently rode in the backseat of a Model Y and the space was efficient for my wife and me. It was an Uber so they had the passenger front seat all the way forward in its track.
I could tell the Y had little more legroom after riding in the backseat of one recently. If I’m not mistaken the Rav has more interior space than the Lexus RX which surprised me because the NX is the Rav’s cousin and RX is supposed to be next step up. As for cargo space, I’ve hauled a 7500 predator generator in the box plus groceries in the trunk of the Rav with the rear seats upright in place. All in all both good vehicles.

 

I believe you, you don't have to try and convince me. In my current position, hybrid or phev doesn't make sense. I have a charger at home, the Y for travelling, and the Sienna as backup. If I had to rely solely on the Polestar or Ioniq, then maybe a hybrid or phev would be needed. In fact the only hybrid I would consider would be the Sienna or Pacifica