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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 07:43 PM
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No way his electric bill doubled charging a Prologue. Sounds like a classic car salesman with mouth diarrhea to me.
LOL. His words not mine.

He actually sold TWO ridgelines today.
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 09:35 PM
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I’m sure those words came out of his mouth. I have heard some other really absurd stuff come out of a car salesman’s mouth. They love to talk and they love to act like they know a lot about something.

It’s just math, it doesn’t take enough kw to charge an EV regularly to double the electric use of an entire home in a month.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I think it’s around .11 - .12 cents as well. No such thing as on/off peak.
Ok, so he charges once a week, which is similar to us. We spent less than $200 on charging last year. If that doubled his electricity cost and he's complaining about it, maybe he needs a better job.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 07:20 AM
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He said if he just goes to work and back home he charges once a week in which he does at work now. Since he spends most of his days at the dealership he’s only charging once a week. He also said if he’s doing more driving around town he would be charging more frequently. So maybe he was once driving more and charging more often and was plugging it in at home initially. Mike he charging once a week at work now.

Dealership, his home and all food places are all within 5 mile radius.

My friend with MYLR I’ve seen his electricity bill increase $185-$200 when he first got his EV. He was also driving it at every chance he could which made him charge more. He eventually shopped around and found a better rate and charges during off peak hours which I think is after midnight. He’s first person I’ve heard mention Tesla Electric. He switched his electric company over to Tesla electric.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 08:07 AM
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Who's gonna tell him? Lol


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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Ok, so he charges once a week, which is similar to us. We spent less than $200 on charging last year. If that doubled his electricity cost and he's complaining about it, maybe he needs a better job.
He's FOS lol
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
"Turns out he’s a field engineer for GM and he told me the EV market isn’t going anywhere"

What does that mean? That it's going to continue to grow or that it literally "isn't going anywhere"?

Cool you met with him. Thanks for sharing!
EVs are not in a decline. Their growth has just slowed down. There will be a big shake-up in the EV market, and legacy can still benefit from it.

Having a pragmatic EV strategy is even more important in these times. Legacy brands need to stop trying to become the "second Tesla". But at the same time knee-jerk reactions are always dangerous and car companies would be making huge mistakes again if they swing from "all BEVs" to "no BEVs".
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Framestead
EVs are not in a decline. Their growth has just slowed down. There will be a big shake-up in the EV market, and legacy can still benefit from it.

Having a pragmatic EV strategy is even more important in these times. Legacy brands need to stop trying to become the "second Tesla". But at the same time knee-jerk reactions are always dangerous and car companies would be making huge mistakes again if they swing from "all BEVs" to "no BEVs".
Agreed. GM selling over 100k EV'S in 2024 in the US is everything I need to know about the market
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In addition, evs being cheaper to acquire and run will also go away eventually, reaching cost parity with ice vehicles.

I liken it to Youtube tv, started off being way cheaper, and every one formed a media circle calling out how bad cable companies are, eventually they acquired enough market share, and youtube tv is now the new cable company.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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EVs are not cheaper to acquire, they are more expensive in general. EVs are going to get cheaper, not more expensive, same as other electronics. TVs, computers, etc have all gotten cheaper, not more expensive.

Cost to run, unless taxes are levied that drive the cost of operating one to what it costs to operate an ICE car that also doesn't make any sense. ICE cars require a lot of maintenance that EVs simply do not require, and if electricity became as expensive as gas the economy would collapse becauee people would have $3,000 a month electric bills to power their homes.

The bottom line is EVs by their nature are just cheaper to operate than a gas car. Not cheaper to acquire but cheaper to operate. Like any other gasoline VS electronic tool. My electric power tools for instance, they cost way more upfront but there is no maintenance at all.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
He's FOS lol
LOL Why would you say that? What reason would he have to lie? He likes his car.

l’ve personally seen my friend’s MYLR electric bill where it increased $185 the first month with his MYLR.
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 11:42 AM
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That's about 15 charging cycles @0.20 kWh or put another way 125 miles/day 7 days a week. 45,000 miles per year. For a gas car you'd be paying $5,000 to fuel it driving the same mileage. At least 5 oil changes.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
LOL Why would you say that? What reason would he have to lie? He likes his car.

l’ve personally seen my friend’s MYLR electric bill where it increased $185 the first month with his MYLR.
I agree he shouldn't be insulting your friend without even knowing him. Anyway, don't take it personally.

When you buy and bring home an electric car, it's only natural your bill is going to go up if you charge at home. On average he's probably using an extra 30 to 50 kWh per week. Now that I'm charging three cars, it's winter with less sunlight, it's probably an extra $150 per month. But that's way offset by not having to fill up with gas, which would easily be $240 a week... not month. Plus no maintenance costs like oil changes. Even if we drove cars like a Prius, I still am either equal or saving money over filling up. So your friend isn't looking at the offset. That is unless he's still filling up gas cars regularly
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
LOL Why would you say that? What reason would he have to lie? He likes his car.

l’ve personally seen my friend’s MYLR electric bill where it increased $185 the first month with his MYLR.
Because it makes no sense. Like I said, its just math. Lots of reasons why his bill may have gone up but its a coincidence. If your friend is charging at the dealer once a week hes driving 200 miles or so a week tops, it is impossible that one vehicle charge a week doubled his electric bill.

If your friend was charging his MYLR from low charge every day then that might make sense. If that were the case though his cost of fuel would have been way more than $185.

Look at what Lex posted above, he's correct. Its just math. Lots of things contribute to fluctuating electric bills. Mine fluctuate a lot from month to month and you can attribute a reason to that but it may or may not be the reason.

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Originally Posted by LeX2K
That's about 15 charging cycles @0.20 kWh or put another way 125 miles/day 7 days a week. 45,000 miles per year. For a gas car you'd be paying $5,000 to fuel it driving the same mileage. At least 5 oil changes.
^^ This ^^
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