Some people really dislike self driving cars, geez louise.

 

That's LA for you, in a nutshell

 

Whole Mars aka Omar's comment says it all this is why we can't have nice things. Maybe self driving cars will need to have protection robots riding shotgun with a shotgun.

 

I told you a story about how insane this city is, and it's only gotten worse since then. You couldn't pay me enough to move back there, and my wife would leave me if I ever tried to. That's not to say SoCal doesn't have nice places to live, it does, just not LA

 

Cybertruck is L.A. resistant.

 

Nah, it will find a way to rot away all that stainless steel...

 

lol

What a sad state of things.

 

catching up here...

more casual trolling. be specific. anecdote about the stupidest probably least efficient ev on the market. does "isn't going anywhere" mean it isn't about to overtake ice vehicles any time soon (true), or is going to decline in marketshare from here on out?

moving on to the prologue...

as steve says, your friend is FOS or just extremely math challenged.

let's paint some worst case numbers:

assume friend gets 200 mi. of range using the battery from 80% to 10%, so 70% use of an 85kwh battery so 2.85mi./kwh, roughly 60kwh used.
at 12c/kwh for re-charging, that's $7.20 to recharge from 10% - 80% (60 x $0.12).
at 5 recharges a month, that's adding $36 a month to the electric bill.
if that's doubling his electric bill, he never uses a/c, appliances, any other motors or heating elements. yeah, right. or maybe his house uses natural gas for all major energy use.

yes you 'threw' that anecdote in, but it's pure garbage trolling - a casual mention that you too can double your electric bill if you get an ev.

exactly.

exactly.

more math...

assuming your friend is a major lead foot and gets 2mi./kwh. i believe the MYLR has about an 80kwh battery.
assuming driving from 80%-10% EVERY DAY that's using 56kwh (and at 2mi./kwh that's avg 112mi. per day [40k/yr], but again driving with a lead foot).
even driving like that, let's assume a bad electricity rate of 20c/kWh, that's $11.20 a day to charge. that would be $336/mo. in charging.
so is your friend's electricity very expensive, and do they drive a ton, and drive like a lunatic?

for comparison i get about 3.2mi./kWh and i drive 30-40mi. typically unless i'm working from home, so i use 10kwh a day typically when i use the car. at 12c/kWh that's a recharge daily cost of $1.20. since i don't go out every day i have concluded the car costs me $1 a day to use. when my daily work car used gas it was about $4/day.

actually mine does. they know when i'm charging the car and have given me an incentive monthly rebate to do it between midnight and 6am (i think) so i do that (you can set the constraints in the app and when you plug the car in earlier, it won't start charging until midnight).

 

All of your electric usage between those hours is discounted though. They’re not just discounting the electricity used to charge the car is my point.

 

Depending on exact rate at the current distance per day that car would do 500,000-1,000,000 miles in 10 years.

 

probably true, but between midnight and 6am i don't think i use a lot of electricity unless is majorly hot or cold.

 

True lol

 

Sorry I didn’t interview the GM engineer for you😒 We talked more about car mods, racing and motorcycles than the 2 minutes we talked about his hummer. From the sound of it, seems like he fast charges more than he charges at home because he’s on the road for work.

And my friend with MYLR I saw 👀 the $185 increase on his electric bill. He has a 82 mile commute to work alone.

Prologue owner, his words not mine. I’m not interested in fact checking him. I’m simply not that interested

One thing I don’t plan on doing is going back to hummer owner, MYLR owner and prologue owner to get more information to make it make sense for you.

 

I give access to my charger to my utility co and I get additional EV charging discounts on top of my discounted evening and weekend rates. Cumbersome to sign up and implement but a money saver. The EV charging is specifically called out in a different line item

 

You're absolutely right about Nuclear. I don't think it's a coincidence that I live in the state with the most active Nuclear generation and also happen to have very low electric rates. Also saw a story last week about how two long-shuttered plants are being prepared to be put back in service, but for private use. One of them is Three Mile Island, which will provide dedicated power for a Microsoft data center and power their AI platform.

Disagree about public wind and solar. Particularly now that it's been proven that certain crops grow BETTER in the shade of a solar array than they do in full sun. The plants' cooling effect also makes the panels more efficient, so this is even better than win:win. But that aside, still no issue. I know a farmer who's getting a tremendous amount of hate for building a solar array on 20% of his land. But it's the terrible, rocky part of his land that he's planted nothing on for the past 25 years. So nothing is being lost.