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Just dropped on Savagegeese. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet, I'll check it out this evening
https://youtu.be/Ew35IspApso?si=PIrHEYb1BkLkyS1u
https://youtu.be/Ew35IspApso?si=PIrHEYb1BkLkyS1u
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 19,799
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From: California
Just dropped on Savagegeese. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet, I'll check it out this evening
https://youtu.be/Ew35IspApso?si=PIrHEYb1BkLkyS1u
https://youtu.be/Ew35IspApso?si=PIrHEYb1BkLkyS1u
Styling
Can be configured with multiple colors and options
Roomier than most minivans
Drives and handles better than other traditional minivans like the Sienna, Odyssey, and Carnival
Excellent lifestyle vehicle
Cons:
Software implementation- more geared for the tech savvy
Range
slow charging
No heat pump in the US
Expensive even before dealership markups
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My wife is away for the next week and a half. I see some test drive opportunities ahead of me.
None of the "cons" are really issues for us. We almost exclusively charge at home, get no benefit from a heat pump, would mostly drive this locally and I'm not a luddite.
None of the "cons" are really issues for us. We almost exclusively charge at home, get no benefit from a heat pump, would mostly drive this locally and I'm not a luddite.
Last edited by swajames; Feb 7, 2025 at 02:17 PM.
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It actually looks really good to me, my hold back would be the price. Most trips we do are in the Y. The 2025 Sienna is also overpriced, so between this and the Sienna would be a no brainer....I would take the ID.Buzz
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If you want good visibility you do need a different camera. My S580 for instance has a forward camera that records from up at the top of the windshield like any aftermarket dashcam, and then it uses the surround view cameras to record if any impact is registered. Thats good enough that I haven't installed the dashcam I had in my previous two cars, but I would rather it also had a regular rear camera.
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Every new car IMO should have 360 cameras, and with inexpensive USB flash drives record at least every drive. My daughter a few years ago got into an accident that from appearances looked like it was her fault, and the driver could have easily twisted the narrative, but she happened to be a young doctor (moved here from Iowa) who was honest to the bone
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Yes, the bigger the battery, the longer it takes. My Model 3 has an 81 kWh battery pack, it would take about 6 hours to 8 hours charging at 9kW
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