Merry Christmas everyone!

 

I think the gas Escalade is the better overall design.. The Escalade IQ should have been the same design as the body on frame Escalade but only electric...kinda like the 7 series gas/diesel/EV. or like the new Range Rover

 

I think it looks sharp but I don't see this selling a lot, at least not in meaningful numbers.

They couldn't sell the diesel, only 5% of them so they dropped it. (I could have told GM that from the get go and saved them a lot of money.)

The big V8 is a part of the Escalade's appeal. That's not a knock on EVs, they can buy this one.

 

As far as Cadillac is concerned, I'm seeing a ton of Lyriq's, so they are selling. Also, I've driven a few Diesel's like the Oldsmobile and once as passenger in the RAM truck, and frankly I didn't like the experience. You can't compare a diesel to an EV drivetrain, which is smoother and quieter than a V8, which is what an Escalade buyer would want. Most Escalades here are used to transport executives around, and the reason for that is how roomy, quiet and comfortable they are, which makes them perfect with an EV drivetrain, IMO of course

 

I'm not directly comparing the diesel to an EV version like this either, but obviously people don't care about gas mileage (imagine that) and want the really lovely 6.2L V8....

 

EV'S are not just about gas mileage, but performance. Someone who buys a Hybrid is most likely for gas mileage. Remove EV'S entirely from the picture, and our family car would most likely be a hybrid, but my personal daily commuter would have a big *** engine 😄

 

Merry Christmas to you!

 

Don't underestimate diesels. Good ones are absolutely phenomenal to drive. All about the torque. Max torque at much lower RPM than NA engines, better suited for off road than anything where max torque isn't available until much higher RPM, runs on anything that vaguely resembles oil, excellent NVH, and virtually indestructible. BMW diesels when they were available were tremendous.

 

Actually I did ride once in a Mercedes 450 diesel, and I was surprised how smooth and quiet it was. But they really never really caught on here, even though they have a lot of low down torque and are efficient

 

definitely better than the gas escalade which is a ludicrous tall tank/bus thing.

IQ:



gas 'slade:



orly... the gas escalade is typical old gm tank proportions with modern stupid high hood.

 

Both the same height 76”

will be like the EQS and S class disaster. The EV Slade is like $50K starting over the gas slade’. There is only room for one model. (Then gas Escalade does have $12,500 cash credits)

Really is irrelevant what powertrain the Escalade has, if the design is good. Will sell well

 

I haven't seen any Cadillac Lyrics.
But, I saw my first Volkswagen ID4 and it looks a lot better in real life than in pics.

 

I have seen a few. They have grown on me. Great deals can be had on them with 0% financing which makes them a good deal.

I saw the VW electric van yesterday. It was a VW dealer/store shuttle van

 

I see plenty of both around here. We really liked the ID4, but it leaves a lot to be desired. It uses all captouch buttons, that are too easy to activate when not intending to. It also has only 2 window buttons for all 4 windows. There's a switch you need to activate to change from front to back. Then there's how slow it feels for an EV. If you're coming from an ICE vehicle, it feels pretty quick. Just don't compare it with another mainstream BEV.

 

I actually like the design of the IQ Better, its sleeker and smoother looking IMO.

The IQ is actually longer believe it or not, its the same length as the Suburban/Escalade ESV, about a foot longer than the Escalade The design though I agree is sleeker and less bulky.

I see a bunch of Lyriqs around here and I know a couple people that have them. They are stupid cheap to lease.