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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wow, 15. so what is it your spouse liked so much about ev's? besides the quiet, lack of transmission shifts, effortless acceleration and generally everything being better than an ice drivetrain.
I didn’t really find the quiet powertrain or lack of transmission shifts as something appealing and nor did I find the drive to be better than an ice vehicle. I think they all drove without a soul (all the same..quiet and super boring) I was more interested in the product differentiation and mostly the interiors. I wanted to see how they drive and handle. The small Volvo was a cool experience aside from no speedometer. I really liked the Lexus interior and the materials. I thought I would like the Nissan Airya but I didn’t. KIA was kinda cool will all the features etc. the way you start the KIA with that turn of a twist on the lever was cool. Back seats in the KIA had cooling seats and interesting ambient lighting.











I really thought I’d like the Nissan but I didn’t like the way it rode.



here is the Blazer. It really felt like I was driving a Chevrolet

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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Don't feel too bad. On of the guys at the office paid $75k for his 2025 RX500h. I kid you not
My wife's 3LR AWD in 2018 was $55.7K and my 2019 3P was $69,100. I'm used to paying the early adopter tax

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That will be a good starting price.


do you think your Rivian Trucks interior is up to the price point? I am unsure but my spouse certainly does.

this was the truck we test drove last night. What MSRP is this?
I love the interior on my R1S. Materials feel great and are holding up well. The seat shape is the only thing I'm not completely in love with. In some seating positions the top part of the seat back above the indentation in the seat eats into me a little bit. But 90% of the time no issue. Road noise isn't too bad either considering I have A/T tires on mine. I did a test drive with the standard road tires and it made a decent difference
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 08:50 AM
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most annoying part of the EVs right now must be that they are harder to sell used, so you can not change them as much... for people who lease, thats great though with great lease deals, unfortunately we dont get that in eastern europe.
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 09:09 AM
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most annoying part of the EVs right now must be that they are harder to sell used, so you can not change them as much... for people who lease, thats great though with great lease deals, unfortunately we dont get that in eastern europe.
Used Tesla's have no problem selling in California. In fact if you sell a Tesla from another state, chances are it ends up in the hands of a California buyer. Of course you do take a haircut selling
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That doesn't look like a Plaid badge. There's only one badge
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Definitely not a Plaid badge but it does have the spoiler. What I can’t unsee is how misaligned the right tailight is which is what many complain about but for some reason it seems to only be the right side of the car.
Thanks for confirming. I've seen Plaid badge before but I don't know much so I asked. That's kind of crazy. I've seen regular BMWs with XM badges and now it exists in EV world too. Next time I'll take a close up shot. I wonder if the owner wants people to think s/he has a Plaid. The car is always clean and shiny. It must be owned/cared by a car guy. It looks like our flag.

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I have to say, you have a very good eye 😊. Now I can't unsee it
Interesting enough my (good) eyes didn't catch that. I guess if it bugs you, you won't forget?
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I didn’t really find the quiet powertrain or lack of transmission shifts as something appealing and nor did I find the drive to be better than an ice vehicle. I think they all drove without a soul (all the same..quiet and super boring) I was more interested in the product differentiation and mostly the interiors. I wanted to see how they drive and handle. The small Volvo was a cool experience aside from no speedometer. I really liked the Lexus interior and the materials. I thought I would like the Nissan Airya but I didn’t. KIA was kinda cool will all the features etc. the way you start the KIA with that turn of a twist on the lever was cool. Back seats in the KIA had cooling seats and interesting ambient lighting.
you said before your spouse loved all of them and i asked what they liked.



here is the Blazer. It really felt like I was driving a Chevrolet
that's because it is a chevrolet?
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you said before your spouse loved all of them and i asked what they liked.

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my spouse did write that. I handed the phone to them

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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you said before your spouse loved all of them and i asked what they liked.



that's because it is a chevrolet?
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my spouse did write that. I handed the phone to them
Cmon @bitkahuna even I caught on to that.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you said before your spouse loved all of them and i asked what they liked.



that's because it is a chevrolet?
This is where I find things a bit suspicious:

"nor did I find the drive to be better than an ice vehicle"

Even the most rabbid motor heads would admit an EV drivetrain drives hundreds of times better than ICE. That's like someone who drives a Corolla saying they weren't impressed after driving an M4 lol 🤣
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Even the most rabbid motor heads would admit an EV drivetrain drives hundreds of times better than ICE. That's like someone who drives a Corolla saying they weren't impressed after driving an M4 lol 🤣
Some people need fumes and buzzing noises.
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
my spouse did write that. I handed the phone to them
ok but you wrote though "we test drove 15 different EVs yesterday at the auto show. My spouse loved all of them."

the write up by your spouse seems less effusive (no soul, super boring, couple of cool features...) more like damning with faint praise, maybe.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna



that's because it is a chevrolet?
What I mean is, some brands didn’t feel the same as gas cars from that brand. The KIA I rode in, didn’t ride like my sisters KIA. It felt like it was a new brand. The Escalade rode like an Escalade rides
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Some people need fumes and buzzing noises.
​​​​​​ When someone has actually driven an EV and describes the experience (even if they don't intend to buy one), I can tell the difference from someone who "claims" to have driven one and wants to put it in a bad light. In other words, my BS detector goes off
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
This is where I find things a bit suspicious:

"nor did I find the drive to be better than an ice vehicle"

Even the most rabbid motor heads would admit an EV drivetrain drives hundreds of times better than ICE. That's like someone who drives a Corolla saying they weren't impressed after driving an M4 lol 🤣
Originally Posted by LeX2K
Some people need fumes and buzzing noises.



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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
This is where I find things a bit suspicious:

"nor did I find the drive to be better than an ice vehicle"
Why not? My V8 and my V6 are very different experiences. The sounds they make. My V8 is silent at idle and is very smooth with no exhaust noise or vibration. My V6 is a much different experience, almost feels by design. The centre differential in my V8 you can feel it adjusting when in tight turns when stopped, you feel it through the gas and brake pedal. My V6 doesn’t do it. So both my SUVs are different experiences. All the EVs at the show were silent. (aside from the Daytona)
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