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From: Alberta
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“Nobody who buys cars in this price range cares about fuel economy no matter what the TV says” not sure who said that, if it was AJT or somebody else. That’s not true. I have a $140,000 S Class and I care about fuel economy to a degree. I know many people who do, and fuel costs and not buying fuel are a driver for them to buy EVs etc.
People who have money do care about what their money gets spent on. To me gas is a big expense that I would be happy not to pay for. Am I going to buy a car or not buy a car because of fuel economy? No. Do I appreciate a car getting good fuel economy and look forward to having an EV and no longer buying gas? Yes.
If I never stopped at a gas station again that would be an event to celebrate IMO
People who have money do care about what their money gets spent on. To me gas is a big expense that I would be happy not to pay for. Am I going to buy a car or not buy a car because of fuel economy? No. Do I appreciate a car getting good fuel economy and look forward to having an EV and no longer buying gas? Yes.
If I never stopped at a gas station again that would be an event to celebrate IMO
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From: California
“Nobody who buys cars in this price range cares about fuel economy no matter what the TV says” not sure who said that, if it was AJT or somebody else. That’s not true. I have a $140,000 S Class and I care about fuel economy to a degree. I know many people who do, and fuel costs and not buying fuel are a driver for them to buy EVs etc.
People who have money do care about what their money gets spent on. To me gas is a big expense that I would be happy not to pay for. Am I going to buy a car or not buy a car because of fuel economy? No. Do I appreciate a car getting good fuel economy and look forward to having an EV and no longer buying gas? Yes.
If I never stopped at a gas station again that would be an event to celebrate IMO
People who have money do care about what their money gets spent on. To me gas is a big expense that I would be happy not to pay for. Am I going to buy a car or not buy a car because of fuel economy? No. Do I appreciate a car getting good fuel economy and look forward to having an EV and no longer buying gas? Yes.
If I never stopped at a gas station again that would be an event to celebrate IMO
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From: Knoxville, TN
That's one of the reasons I don't really care for the '25 Yukon refresh, they changed the headlights to mimic the Sierra EV.
I like the way it looks for an EV truck but they need to differentiate them. They fixed something not broken with the Yukon's face IMHO.
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From: Maryland
That makes no sense. There is zero difference to how it drives, you would never know it was a hybrid. The wheels do not disconnect when coasting. Only reason for him to not want it is if he was anti hybrid and EV like you are but in that case he never would have bought it in the first place. It’s not about somebody liking or not liking the same thing as me, it’s about the fact that I have had both cars and there is no difference to how the 223 powertrain feels other than the startup noise since there is no starter. If he did trade it that wasn’t the reason why.
And he can’t get the diesel because they don’t sell it here, so that was never an option.
Like I said I wouldn’t not buy a car with poor gas mileage if I wanted it, but I do appreciate improvements in gas mileage and I would like to buy less gas or preferably no gas. I love that the Pacifica only needs gas for travel. You don’t believe my preferences there are real and I don’t believe your friend is real so I guess we will leave it at that...
And he can’t get the diesel because they don’t sell it here, so that was never an option.
Like I said I wouldn’t not buy a car with poor gas mileage if I wanted it, but I do appreciate improvements in gas mileage and I would like to buy less gas or preferably no gas. I love that the Pacifica only needs gas for travel. You don’t believe my preferences there are real and I don’t believe your friend is real so I guess we will leave it at that...
Last edited by SW17LS; Dec 26, 2024 at 04:30 PM.
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That makes no sense. There is zero difference to how it drives, you would never know it was a hybrid. The wheels do not disconnect when coasting. Only reason for him to not want it is if he was anti hybrid and EV like you are but in that case he never would have bought it in the first place. It’s not about somebody liking or not liking the same thing as me, it’s about the fact that I have had both cars and there is no difference to how the 223 powertrain feels other than the startup noise since there is no starter. If he did trade it that wasn’t the reason why.
Like I said I wouldn’t not buy a car with poor gas mileage if I wanted it, but I do appreciate improvements in gas mileage and I would like to buy less gas or preferably no gas. I love that the Pacifica only needs gas for travel. You don’t believe my preferences there are real and I don’t believe your friend is real so I guess we will leave it at that...
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I only put 50,000 miles on a W222 and 7,000 miles on a W223 so what do I know?!
All you have to do to turn glide mode off is not use Comfort or EV drive mode. I never use it.
All you have to do to turn glide mode off is not use Comfort or EV drive mode. I never use it.
Last edited by SW17LS; Dec 26, 2024 at 06:38 PM.
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If I told you my friend had an 04 LS430 and sold it because he thought hhis IS350 rode softer and had a more refined engine…how would you react to that? You know what I am saying is not true because you have firsthand experience that it’s not.
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It all comes back to this bias against EVs…
The reality is electrification makes cars better…having had the same two cars non-electrified and electrified it’s really clear to me.
The reality is electrification makes cars better…having had the same two cars non-electrified and electrified it’s really clear to me.
Last edited by SW17LS; Dec 26, 2024 at 07:15 PM.