My friend had a 209 one way trip today. His 2023 MYLR couldn’t make the trip without stopping to charge. The speed limit on the highway is 75mph. IMO, that’s not good at all. I would like to see REALISTIC numbers from Tesla.

 

​​​​​​As a general rule, I feel it is always better to under promise and over deliver.

At least that's how I do it.

Meeting and exceeding customer's expectations is what it's all about!

 

Is this better?

 

It makes sense to derate the range at 75 mph.

Heck of a lot more wind at higher speeds and more work needs to be done.

 

To drive 390 miles, I used roughly 111kWh on my last trip. The battery pack is an 81kWh battery pack, Tesla makes 75 kWh available, the remaining is reserved. If you divide energy used, that's 0.28 kWh per mile or 28 kWh every 100 miles. That means I am getting roughly 260 miles on a 100 percent charge. There must be something else limiting your friends range, like mountain roads, or maybe he has 20" tires.

The other reasons could be the map planner. Due to distancing between chargers, it may be adding charging stops, not because his battery is depleted

 

To answer your question, yes, the complaints are legit. EPA range on the sticker: 330 miles. My real world: 260 miles.

I already knew this ahead of time before I bought the car. Since I charge mostly at home and there are plenty of super chargers (which I only use on trips), it doesn't really effect me. Also I could get probably 300 miles out of it if I wasn't so hard on the throttle, but what's the fun in that

Tesla could probably fix the issue by releasing more battery from reserve, but that would also decrease battery pack life

 

Don't have proof but I strongly suspect most auto makers don't care at all about battery life. They go for maximum charge speed and range.

 

No mountains. A few hills but all of them are maybe .1-.2 mile long max. He does have the 20 inch tires but still the car is rated for 318 miles I believe and he’s not able to get anywhere close to that on the highway.

I’m looking at the Tesla planner right now from where he started to where he said he would be stopping to charge. Starting out at 80%, to travel 2hr 21 min (157 miles), it says he will need to stop and charge for 5 min 103 miles from where he started. But I guess he intended on skipping that 5 min charge and go the entire 157 miles to the 3rd supercharger stop. Then from there to his home is 53 miles. Total of 210 miles.

So he started out at 80%. 20% of 318 miles is 255 miles. So he should have 255 miles of range at 80% but can’t make the 210 mile trip without stopping to charge. If I owned a Tesla, I don’t think I would ever take it on a road trip.

Edit: he started out at 80% drove 157 miles to supercharger arrived with 12% remaining. Charged to 38% then drove the remaining 53 miles home. Arrived with 15% remaining.

 

Driving an EV at 85 makes a significant difference range wise real world?

 

That's just a state of mind, or what I call, a self imposed roadblock . Tens of thousands of people here take Tesla's on road trips daily. Having to spend 5 or 10 minutes charging is just a small sacrifice. Unless I'm traveling somewhere where charging is sketchy or not available, it's a trip in my Tesla every time. My poor Sienna sees no action anymore, except serving as the dog car or if we have to go somewhere with more than 5 passengers

 

The faster you drive, the more range you lose. But that's the same with gasoline cars, you are fighting the wind. At 80 mph, on average I'm using 28 kWh per 100 miles. 33.7 kWh is one gallon of gasoline, so I'm still running very efficient, but not as efficient as I would be driving at 70 mph

 

As a consumer, thats what I want too.

 

Updates to the testing method is why Tesla lowered estimates

https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_...d=55592&flag=1

New testing does seem to punish cars with air suspension. My R1S is measurably more efficient at low/lowest vs. the higher ride heights

 

Idk if it’s just me but I pass a lot of EVs on the highway on roadtrips, even when I’m towing.

 

Few days ago I drove 467 miles without stopping. I had a 12oz sparkling water ( I didn’t drink until after the halfway mark) and a bag of almonds. I’m not stopping if I don’t have to.