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Dec 4, 2025 | 06:02 AM

#8086

SW17LS

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My guess is that was Apple autocorrect at work lol

Dec 4, 2025 | 06:28 AM

#8087

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Watching the Out of Spec review of the iX3…they are adopting the MB style pop out door handles! Don’t be excited lol

MB style really? Like 8 years after Model S.

Other than that and design things that are subjective, after watching 5-6 reviews of iX3:

Good
- Handles well with good comfort ride, well designed suspension
- state of the art 800v electric platform with 400kw charging
- huge 108kwh usable battery
- modern electronic systems, esp, etc.
- frunk has space for cables
- modern multimedia system
- panoramic view is cool
- level 2+ automated driving (hands off in Europe on highway up until 130kmh)
- nice comfy seats
- unique looking interior - aka not boring

Bad
- 400v charging - only test so far on SC showed very sharp drop on 400v charging (started at almost 200kw and dropped to under 50kw at 70%)
Interior quality
- entry level premium quality (under knees all hard plastics)
- only manual steering wheel
- no cooled seats
- no heated seats at the back
- no active suspension (hydraulic or air)
- no electric folding rear seats
- 3 zone AC optional with 1 line display at back

Aside from not clear 400v charging speed (max is fine, dropping fast is weird), platform itself is one to get - latest in the tech from any manufacturer.

But from interior quality, this is an expensive Toyota. Weird.

Dec 4, 2025 | 06:47 AM

#8088

SW17LS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spwolf

MB style really? Like 8 years after Model S.

My horror experience is only with Mercedes’ implementation. They’re just terrible. Can’t say if Model S’s are the same way, certainly have never heard the same complaints.

Dec 4, 2025 | 07:50 AM

#8089

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i don't like the extending handles on the model s. can't say they're great on model y either with the thumb/reverse-grab-front move needed.

Dec 4, 2025 | 07:57 AM

#8090

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I'm surprised BMW is going that route when they have what is IMO a better execution of an electronic handle already:

The door handles are the only thing about my S580 that I hate.

Dec 4, 2025 | 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

nice!

this lot installed today should help here

Sorry, I replied to the wrong person

. How many batteries is that? Looks like 3 with a controller

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Dec 4, 2025 | 08:41 AM

#8092

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

i don't like the extending handles on the model s. can't say they're great on model y either with the thumb/reverse-grab-front move needed.

The Model S and X implementation actually works really well. For the Model 3 and Y it's for aerodynamics purposes, but done on the cheap. It's something you get used to, but it's current implementation can't be defended. For the "non Tesie" as Bay likes to call us, I have to show them how to open the doors, which is frankly for a lack of a better word, embarrassing

. Once you get used to the door handles, it's not a big deal, so I'll just take the Apple line here and say "It just works"

Dec 4, 2025 | 08:51 AM

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My horror experience is only with Mercedes’ implementation. They’re just terrible. Can’t say if Model S’s are the same way, certainly have never heard the same complaints.

i didnt realize MBs are bad... Works fine on my MS, only problem is if you try to hold them at the half second before they start closing, you have to work quick.
Otherwise they are cool looking.

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Dec 4, 2025 | 09:30 AM

#8094

SW17LS

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Originally Posted by spwolf

i didnt realize MBs are bad... Works fine on my MS, only problem is if you try to hold them at the half second before they start closing, you have to work quick.
Otherwise they are cool looking.

I think the issue is that the handles are also touch sensitive for locking. The issue is if you brush them the wrong way while trying to open the door they will snap shut and trap your hand. It doesn’t hurt, but it’s obnoxious. My daughter actually refuses to use the door handles at all.

Are the Model S’s touch sensitive for locking?

Dec 4, 2025 | 09:36 AM

#8095

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No, Tesla's have a "walk away" lock feature

Dec 4, 2025 | 09:36 AM

#8096

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Original Model S door handles were complete trash Tesla used off the shelf micro-switches with no weather sealing at all. Wires broke off due to no strain relief. Tesla figured out the reliability problem but pop out door handles are a dumb design. I like the Model Y handles, flush for aerodynamics and no motor mechanism to fail.

Dec 4, 2025 | 09:38 AM

#8097

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Originally Posted by LeX2K

Original Model S door handles were complete trash Tesla used off the shelf micro-switches with no weather sealing at all. Wires broke off due to no strain relief. Tesla figured out the reliability problem but pop out door handles are a dumb design. I like the Model Y handles, flush for aerodynamics and no motor mechanism to fail.

That's the only plus. They are difficult to use if you have something in your hand. Once you figure out how to use them they are easy, but most people who have never opened a Model 3 or Y door have trouble with them

Dec 4, 2025 | 12:43 PM

#8098

SW17LS

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

No, Tesla's have a "walk away" lock feature

Thats what I figured. I think that would make a huge difference.

Dec 4, 2025 | 01:14 PM

#8099

spwolf

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Originally Posted by SW17LS

Thats what I figured. I think that would make a huge difference.

Yeah, they quto close after xx seconds of you not touching them. There is a cool factor to them, plus they do break any ice i encountered.

Dec 4, 2025 | 07:22 PM

#8100

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Sorry, I replied to the wrong person

. How many batteries is that? Looks like 3 with a controller

yup, 3x 15kWh batteries and the smaller thinner box is the controller. i put the third battery off to the right so i can open the ioniq door between them when i pull in. system's not running yet. need a sign off from the power company.

and this is the other 'part'