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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
I'm in agreement here. I drive our EV 30-80 miles/day so I don't care about maximizing range. I'd prefer the shape of the car, wheels, etc. to just be a great looking vehicle overall. For example, I really like the Sierra EV pickup truck... because it looks almost identical to the ICE Sierra.
That's built on a 100 percent EV platform. I should have mentioned that I'm excluding trucks from this discussion, but now the cats out of the bag
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I personally want a more stylish car than an egg shaped car. It also doesn’t have to have some weird futuristic dash inside either, like they are trying to hard to be cutting edge just because it’s an EV.
To me just make a normal good looking car. Kia/Hyundai can do it so others should too. I think the new Teslas look good too. BMW isn’t bad and all they need to do is design a newer front end.
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Hyundai EVs arent normal looking in my eyes. They are purposely made to stand out.
You don't necessarily need round egg shape for aerodynamics, no matter what Mercedes says abut their EQ series. It's possible, like the Model S. But for some reason, automakers think consumers want to stand out, just like the Prius model.
I think MB EVs grew on me. I used to question why some would pay that much for them especially the sedans. Same with iX and sedans too. The i7/7 don't look as tall/thick anymore. I was behind a black one and I thought it looked great. The front, yes, can have some improvement.
I feel the same with with RXSF about Korean EVs. Except the Genesis, I think they overtried the designs to be different. It's subjective and apparently some do like. Heck... I've seen many more CT these days.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:29 AM
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One of the best things about my Lightning is it is identical to the ICE vehicle in almost all non-powertrain respects which means any of the thousands of non-powertrain accessories are 100% compatible and why we have the absolutely massive frunk space.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames
One of the best things about my Lightning is it is identical to the ICE vehicle in almost all non-powertrain respects which means any of the thousands of non-powertrain accessories are 100% compatible and why we have the absolutely massive frunk space.
I almost bought a Lightning after seeing that massive Frunk. I even showed my wife how between the Frunk and the truck bed, it could easily replace our Sienna
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:50 AM
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Imagine @swajames if you had to put Premium in your F-150. The Chevron near my house yesterday:

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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Indeed! Very happy to have solar!
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 10:30 AM
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Indeed! Very happy to have solar!
I'm actually trying to see if I can add more panels, charging three EV's has eaten almost 50 percent of my output. A rep from Sunrun (my panel provider) says they may be able to do it without breaking my NEM 2 contract. Fingers crossed 🙏
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I'm actually trying to see if I can add more panels, charging three EV's has eaten almost 50 percent of my output. A rep from Sunrun (my panel provider) says they may be able to do it without breaking my NEM 2 contract. Fingers crossed 🙏
As I understand it you should be able to add the greater of 10% or 1kW to your current production without breaking NEM2, or you can add as many non-export panels as you want (ideally along with battery storage etc) but you will need to ensure the zero-export part is appropriately segregated.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That explains it, he's probably on HW v2 or v2.5. My coworker has a 2020 Model Y and he has only FSD v12, which is different from v13 which I have on my Model 3. My Model Y (which has HW v3 and no FSD) doesn't even get the 30 day trials anymore
Lol, this discussion started because of the FSD modes. So if his is a Hardware 2 and FSD 12 - I know his has Standard mode and am aggressive mode. No idea what it's called.

You had mentioned that only Hardware 4 and FSD 14 had drive modes.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 11:28 AM
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Lol, this discussion started because of the FSD modes. So if his is a Hardware 2 and FSD 12 - I know his has Standard mode and am aggressive mode. No idea what it's called.

You had mentioned that only Hardware 4 and FSD 14 had drive modes.
No, I think we are misunderstanding each other. HW v4 supports FSD v13, which has "Standard" mode, but adds "Chill" and "Hurry" modes. HW v3 and below only supports up to FSD v12, which as I understand it, doesn't have "Chill" and "Hurry" modes. I believe it does have "Standard" mode, but because I don't currently have an FSD subscription on my Y (which has HW v3), I can't confirm this
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Imagine @swajames if you had to put Premium in your F-150. The Chevron near my house yesterday:

So that was why you bought EVs. Speaking of this... I saw a post the other day where it was almost $8/gal in downtown LA.
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
So that was why you bought EVs. Speaking of this... I saw a post the other day where it was almost $8/gal in downtown LA.
Speaking for only myself, it was more for the Performance aspect as well as convenience of charging at home, and less maintenance. Remove EV's from the equation, and my wife would be driving a hybrid and I would be driving something like an M2 Comp.

Southern Cal has the most expensive gas, probably in all of California
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
No, I think we are misunderstanding each other. HW v4 supports FSD v13, which has "Standard" mode, but adds "Chill" and "Hurry" modes. HW v3 and below only supports up to FSD v12, which as I understand it, doesn't have "Chill" and "Hurry" modes. I believe it does have "Standard" mode, but because I don't currently have an FSD subscription on my Y (which has HW v3), I can't confirm this
My brother in law's car which is probably Hardware 2.5 definitely has more than just Standard mode 👍
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Legacy seems to be finding inroads with commonality, would not say its a 100% solution but better then egglands finest designs.

Having said that, few years ago legacy and engineering consultants were yelling at anyone who would listen, that you need to have separate platforms to ensure range and profitability. Now that didnt work out, and legacy is yelling the opp,
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Originally Posted by coolsaber
Legacy seems to be finding inroads with commonality, would not say its a 100% solution but better then egglands finest designs.

Having said that, few years ago legacy and engineering consultants were yelling at anyone who would listen, that you need to have separate platforms to ensure range and profitability. Now that didnt work out, and legacy is yelling the opp,
I honestly don't think sharing platforms saves money, but I don't have the data to back that up. That said, maintaining two different lines is probably not the answer either
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