Thats called "buying a used car"

 

When you buy a Tesla, you fully inspect the car before the final sign-off. You can reject the car for any reason before signing off on it. If you reject it because you changed your mind, your lose $250 "order fee". If you reject it because of an issue like panel gaps, something broken, etc than you are put back in the queue for another car. Now if the car has some mechanical issue that there is no way you would find out about until you drive it off the lot, that's what the warranty is for. Tesla does inspect the car prior to delivery, so it's highly unlikely it has a mechanical issue. Most issues that get by are cosmetic.

IMO, there is no risk buying a Tesla, be it a Demo or a used model if you are buying direct from Tesla. Tesla tells you in the description any problems it has like scratches, or problems they had to fix

 

Without seeing👀 it?????

Someone dropped the ball or somehow this one slipped past inspection on this Reddit Tesla. I personally would’ve ate the $1000. Actually I wouldn’t have put a non refundable deposit on a used vehicle without at least seeing pics of it.

 

Same here. Before I bought my Model 3, which was a Demo, I went through the description, and there was no mention of scratches, damage or repairs. It only had about 1000 miles on it, which is nothing

 

This is not unique to Tesla. Buying a used car has all kinds of potential pitfalls. As was said, if the car isn't satisfactory you just cancel and get a refund. Theres no "nonrefundable deposit".

 

BMW: EVs With Huge Batteries 'Don’t Make Sense'

Efficiency is much more important than stuffing massive batteries into EVs

• BMW will refrain from increasing the battery size of its EVs.
• The company's head of development alluded to large batteries not making sense.
• Instead, BMW will focus on making its EVs more efficient

Getting the most driving range out of an electric vehicle usually means strapping a huge battery pack to its floor and calling it a day. However, as Tesla and other automakers have shown over the years, efficiency is as important as the battery capacity in enabling an EV to drive as far as possible without having to stop for a recharge.

One of those legacy automakers is BMW. They make great EVs, including the i4 and the iX, and they know a thing or two about squeezing everything from a vehicle design to make it as efficient as possible. The quirky i3 is a testament to that, especially its skinny tires that were specially designed for it.

And while BMW has fitted its fair share of large batteries to EVs—over 100 kilowatt-hours for the i7 and iX—that’s probably as far as it will go. In an interview with Automotive News quoted by BMW Blog, BMW development boss Frank Weber said that companies can’t “make batteries bigger and bigger because then BEVs don’t make sense anymore.”

He mentioned that there is much talk about EVs capable of driving over 620 miles on a full charge. But building such a car creates an “unnecessarily bad” carbon footprint. Instead, working on the car’s efficiency is “much more important than ever-larger batteries.”

According to some internal customer polling, EV drivers are happy with a vehicle that can drive between 250 to 310 miles on a full charge in real-world conditions. BMW already has several EVs that cover that need, and with the introduction of the upcoming Neue Klasse models, the company claims the real-world ranges will increase by roughly 30% compared to current models.



“From the data we have, only very few people travel distances of several hundred kilometers with a BEV,” Weber said, underlining once again the need for more efficient EVs as opposed to heavier cars with bigger batteries. The latest battery tech is also a big factor in making EV owners’ lives easier. The upcoming Neue Klasse EVs will be powered by new cylindrical cells that were developed in-house by BMW, with the automaker claiming they will offer 30% faster charging compared to current cells, enabling top-ups of roughly 190 miles in just ten minutes.

When it comes to solid-state batteries, which are described as the next best thing in cell technology, Weber believes that we’re still roughly a decade away from seeing solid-state-powered EVs on every road. “They will come, but they are still at least one vehicle generation away.”

https://insideevs.com/news/750314/bm...nt-make-sense/

 

I know @BayeauxLex () likes to go 500+ miles between stops, but give me a range of 300 miles (in the winter!) and a quick 10-80% charge and I'm a happy camper

 

Well that's because he used to take the RAV4 on trips, which is so boring, he couldn't wait to end it 🤣 Now he has an X7 and can take trips in style

 

At 80mph

The Prime didn’t last 2wks at the dealership before it found a new home.

X7 reads 530ish on full tank
I can do 400+ on full tank in Supra 80+mph.

Still have RAV4 hybrid left 🙃 It’s also 500+ on full tank. My Honda has “EV range” then again I’ve never taken it on a road trip but it lives in VTEC

 

On the Fk8, I believe VTEC is only on the exhaust valves, so you are only 50 percent VTEC

 

Fair distinction! I tend to cruise at 75 since most of my longer trips have speed limits of 65 and cops are out in force, but I know there are plenty of 70+ limits in TX

 

Honestly I'm even okay with 250 miles of range as long as there are plenty of places to stop and charge

 

So I just set a mock trip in my Model 3 to my brothers house in Eastvale, total trip 393 miles, and it will take 6 hours and 49 minutes, with 20 minutes of supercharging. Average speeds are usually around 80 mph, and you lived in California, so you are probably familiar with the roads between NorCal and SoCal, this is with going through the Pacheco Pass and the Grapevines. That's about 15 minutes less charging than if I took my Y. I would arrive with 11 percent SoC

 

Same. Maybe when I was 19 I could push through for 450-500 miles at a crack, refill and get right back on the road, but those days are long behind me. 4 hours is about my limit before I need to stop/stretch/get a drink/use the restroom. If my wife is in the car, her limit is more like 2.5-3. If I can charge for ~20 minutes while we do those things that we're going to do anyway, doesn't really change the trip at all.

 

I used to be able to drive for 5 hours and never stop, but now I have to stop to pee at least once. If I can stop, use the bathroom, get something to eat and drink and get back on the road in 20 min thats no big deal IMO.