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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 09:19 AM
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You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
Yes, I meant Apple maps 😊
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Tesla reportedly gets its routing data from MapBox and others, not Google. The displayed map may be from Google, but the routing - the big thing for a navigation app - isn't.
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You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
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Apple Maps now has EV integration for supported vehicles (so SoC, efficiency and preferred networks are factored in to routing) and ABRP now has certain real time EV integrations over and above its ability to connect via Bluetooth to your OBDII port for real time data.
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Tesla reportedly gets its routing data from MapBox and others, not Google. The displayed map may be from Google, but the routing - the big thing for a navigation app - isn't.
Yes, that's why I said this.

"Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with ."

And routing is definitely the most important thing about a navigation app and from my personal experience over the last 5.5 years, the routing in the Tesla map is very good. I usually compare it to Google maps when it's not a simple route or it's a very traffic dense route and I invariably use the Tesla route as it's pretty much identical more than 98% of the time.
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in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
GV60! Congrats to your GF
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Now you have 2 of the same car.
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in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
Congrats again 👍👍
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Originally Posted by swajames
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Apple Maps now has EV integration for supported vehicles (so SoC, efficiency and preferred networks are factored in to routing) and ABRP now has certain real time EV integrations over and above its ability to connect via Bluetooth to your OBDII port for real time data.
In Hyundai's 2024 and newer unfortunately doesn't have any way to precondition the battery for charging unless you use the OEM navigation and select a charger destination and use it to get there. If you plug in carplay at all to use any of the nav apps, it turns off and does not precondition for the fast charge.

Terrible design. 2025 added a menu option to turn it on.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
Very cool! I like those. What did she have before again?
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In Hyundai's 2024 and newer unfortunately doesn't have any way to precondition the battery for charging unless you use the OEM navigation and select a charger destination and use it to get there. If you plug in carplay at all to use any of the nav apps, it turns off and does not precondition for the fast charge.
wouldn't think weather where you are would warrant pre-conditioning. i've never used it in mine, lol.

Terrible design. 2025 added a menu option to turn it on.
sure that's not a software update to give it to yours?
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wouldn't think weather where you are would warrant pre-conditioning. i've never used it in mine, lol
Pre conditioning for high speed battery charging is not just for cold weather - even though it goes down to 10C in NC.
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Average of 44 last month (and $300+ gas heating bill too) so yep, need it. Have been using more fast charging since I don’t have L2 installed yet at home. Plus it’s free.

Nope, no mention of any software update yet to add it. Maybe it will come but suspect it’ll be just like wireless CarPlay and not be added even though hardware supports it. Hopefully Hyundai surprises me but not hopeful.
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What about cops? Waze will tell you that the police are reported ahead. Do you see that in Europe on the Tesla maps?
will not, just stationary radars that update often. Around here thats good enough.

They do keep adding features to nav all the time.

Also, live traffic in Europe is definitely from google and generally matches what waze and google do. I dont see benefit anymore from turning up waze.

i have no idea why would anyone call Tesla nav rudimentary, to me Apple maps look outdated completely.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wouldn't think weather where you are would warrant pre-conditioning. i've never used it in mine, lol.



sure that's not a software update to give it to yours?
As Hameed mentioned, for optimal fast charging, the battery will precondition to get the battery to the correct temperature no matter the current outside temperature when mapped to a supercharger. For example yesterday when about 10 miles from our charging stop, preconditioning turned on, although the temp was around 72F and we were driving about 80 mph
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