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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 08:51 AM
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The Tesla Nav is almost identical in look and feel to Google maps nav, so I'm curious to know what you think about Apple Carplay maps as being light years ahead of Tesla's Nav in terms of look and feel as mentioned by swjames.

It seems you prefer to use Google maps nav and not Carplay based on your feedback above, that's why I'm curious.
I've not used the built in Tesla navigation. Its not just GoogleMaps though, you have Waze and Apple Maps, you have the apple designed interface for apple music and messaging, etc. Other apps that use CarPlay that can be very useful.

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What about cops? Waze will tell you that the police are reported ahead. Do you see that in Europe on the Tesla maps?
Google Maps does the same now.

Originally Posted by Hameed
The "rudimentary nav" has (so far in 5 years) never left me stranded or wanting for prettier graphics etc.

I couldn't care less about fancy 3D renderings of the Tesla UI.

​​​​Lets agree to disagree that the Nav looks dated and how rudimentary it is in terms of feel.

I'm glad the rudimentary nav is not a show stopper for buying a Tesla, because if it was, that would be a bit of a "huh?!" moment. 👍
This is why having CarPlay/AA as an option is best. You can use the built in system or CarPlay. Whichever you prefer. I like things about each and use both.
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This is why having CarPlay/AA as an option is best. You can use the built in system or CarPlay. Whichever you prefer. I like things about each and use both.
No, I wasn't asking your opinion of the Tesla Nav. I was asking your opinion of Carplay vs. Google maps as you seemed to prefer Google maps. The Tesla map base is Google map base. So your opinion on Google maps would theoretically be very similar to what it would be for the Tesla Nav.

Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with .

I also occasionally use ABetterRoutePlanner in the browser of the Tesla UI

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No, I wasn't asking your opinion of the Tesla Nav. I was asking your opinion of Carplay vs. Google maps as you seemed to prefer Google maps. The Tesla map base is Google map base. So your opinion on Google maps would theoretically be very similar to what it would be for the Tesla Nav.

Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with .

I also occasionally use ABetteeRoutePlanner in the browser of the Tesla UI
You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
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You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
Yes, I meant Apple maps 😊
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Tesla reportedly gets its routing data from MapBox and others, not Google. The displayed map may be from Google, but the routing - the big thing for a navigation app - isn't.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
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Apple Maps now has EV integration for supported vehicles (so SoC, efficiency and preferred networks are factored in to routing) and ABRP now has certain real time EV integrations over and above its ability to connect via Bluetooth to your OBDII port for real time data.
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Tesla reportedly gets its routing data from MapBox and others, not Google. The displayed map may be from Google, but the routing - the big thing for a navigation app - isn't.
Yes, that's why I said this.

"Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with ."

And routing is definitely the most important thing about a navigation app and from my personal experience over the last 5.5 years, the routing in the Tesla map is very good. I usually compare it to Google maps when it's not a simple route or it's a very traffic dense route and I invariably use the Tesla route as it's pretty much identical more than 98% of the time.
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in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
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in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
GV60! Congrats to your GF
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Now you have 2 of the same car.
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in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
Congrats again 👍👍
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Originally Posted by swajames
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Apple Maps now has EV integration for supported vehicles (so SoC, efficiency and preferred networks are factored in to routing) and ABRP now has certain real time EV integrations over and above its ability to connect via Bluetooth to your OBDII port for real time data.
In Hyundai's 2024 and newer unfortunately doesn't have any way to precondition the battery for charging unless you use the OEM navigation and select a charger destination and use it to get there. If you plug in carplay at all to use any of the nav apps, it turns off and does not precondition for the fast charge.

Terrible design. 2025 added a menu option to turn it on.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
in other news, my gf got a new car...



so now 2 ev's, 1 ice.
Very cool! I like those. What did she have before again?
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In Hyundai's 2024 and newer unfortunately doesn't have any way to precondition the battery for charging unless you use the OEM navigation and select a charger destination and use it to get there. If you plug in carplay at all to use any of the nav apps, it turns off and does not precondition for the fast charge.
wouldn't think weather where you are would warrant pre-conditioning. i've never used it in mine, lol.

Terrible design. 2025 added a menu option to turn it on.
sure that's not a software update to give it to yours?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wouldn't think weather where you are would warrant pre-conditioning. i've never used it in mine, lol
Pre conditioning for high speed battery charging is not just for cold weather - even though it goes down to 10C in NC.
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