No disrespect intended - I'm really curious to know some very specific examples/use cases you've encountered that back this up.

When you say one system (it doesn't matter what it is) is "nowhere near" another system, there would need to be quite a few very good examples that anyone should be able to come up with that support this statement.

I've never used Apple Carplay, however I can't fathom how the Tesla NAV is nowhere near Apple's NAV considering that the basic criteria of any navigation system is the following that Teslas NAV does very well:

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Core Navigation Features

1. Turn-by-Turn Directions
Provides step-by-step instructions for driving, cycling, or walking.

2. Voice Guidance
Offers spoken directions to minimize distractions.

3. Real-Time Traffic Updates
Displays live traffic conditions and suggests alternative routes to avoid delays.

4. Route Planning
Allows you to customize your route based on preferences (e.g., shortest time, least traffic, or scenic).

5. Multi-Stop Navigation
Enables adding multiple stops along a single trip.

6. Offline Maps
Provides navigation without requiring an internet connection.

7. Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA)
Calculates the time of arrival based on current traffic conditions.

8. Re-Routing
Automatically recalculates the route if you miss a turn or take a detour.

Search & Discovery

9. Point of Interest (POI) Search
Finds nearby restaurants, gas stations, hotels, etc.


10. Address Search
Allows entry of specific addresses or locations.


Personalization & Preferences

13. User Profiles
Stores preferences such as preferred routes, modes of transportation, and frequent destinations.

14. Favorites/Bookmarks
Allows saving of frequently visited locations for easy access.



15. Route Customization
Enables avoidance of tolls, highways, or ferries.

Advanced Features

17. Speed Limit Alerts
Displays speed limits and warns of overspeeding.

18. Lane Guidance
Indicates the correct lane for upcoming turns or exits.

19. Integration with Other Apps/Devices
Syncs with Tesla chargers, or car infotainment systems.

20. Satellite View
Provides a realistic, high-level view of the terrain or area.


Safety & Accessibility

23. Night Mode
Adjusts the display for low-light conditions.

24. Accessibility Features
Offers voice commands

25. Emergency Assistance
Quickly locates hospitals, police stations, or roadside assistance

 

Not disputing the feature set, albeit all of the things on the list are table stakes these days. The point is Tesla's navigation is graphically dated. It's odd, as other aspects of Tesla's software are first rate, but the Nav app looks like something from ten years ago. The point I was making is it's nowhere near Apple's look and feel. All IMO, of course.

 

My wife is a technophobe, there is none bigger than her. She doesn't like changing phones, cars or computers. Yet she figured out Tesla's infotainment screen very quickly. She can navigate through what she needs with no problems.

This is all just my opinion and not meant to offend anyone, but most infotainment screens just suck, including Toyota's and Lexus's implementation. So I understand why someone would want to CarPlay or Android Auto. Again just my opinion, but even if Apple Maps is prettier than Tesla's implementation, once you use Tesla's maps most people love it. And they have added advanced views like Satellite view, points of interest ect.

Again, this is all just my opinion, but I believe if you poll most Tesla owners, they will say the same thing as me, Android Auto/CarPlay are not missed features

 

CarPlay or Android Auto is a cheap toy compared to Tesla's UI IMO.

 

This is one of the reasons I was hesitant in getting the Y for my wife. We're on the high side of the age demographic who buy Tesla's. She quickly learned all the features and is better with it than her Android phone, which sometimes updates and changes basic functions she was used to. What is this airdrop thing you speak of?

 

As long as we are young at heart, that's all that matters

Airdrop is an iPhone feature. If someone has trouble navigating an iPhone, it's time to retire 🤣

 

Got it.

 

thanks.

perhaps you prefer it because you've used it more. carplay is better than EVERY OTHER built in infotainment system imo, except tesla. carplay is really great, but as of now it doesn't control the whole car and not a lot of apps are carplay compatible that i've seen.

how old is 'older'? and if she's of reasonably sound mind, she can easily learn how to deal with airdrop (which i hadn't used either until i got an iphone a year ago) and the tesla ui. and of course you don't have to learn the whole ui to enjoy the vehicles.

i do agree the tesla screen is very busy with panels, controls, menus, icons, etc., and takes a bit of time to get comfortable with.

not remotely comparable. toyota's infotainment has always been a joke and they didn't want someone else's system on their cars but eventually had to cave in as the demand for it was high.

the tesla infotainment though, is world's beyhond anything toyota/lexus has or likely ever will produce.

carplay can use some of a car's buttons like steering wheel controls but relies on screen for many/most things, hmmm.. just like tesla.

and "too software oriented" (reminds me of the king in amadeus criticizing mozart's work as having too many notes )... huh? how is carplay (or android auto) less "software oriented"?

well obviously CP/AA aren't controlling the entire vehicle but what they deliver is really great though. now i have it on my 'old' lc500, it's great, even without a touch screen.

 

But can you order a pizza from Tesla UI?


My teacher I would guess is in her mid 70s at least.

 

You actually could as it has a web browser. You can't use it while in D though

 

My wife's car has Apple Car Play and the only thing I like about it better is access to Waze. The notifications about the fuzz are very helpful.

 

So I have been a longtime user of Apple CarPlay, now that I have the very good MBUX in the S580 I have started using that more including the navigation, and I gotta say I have gone back to CarPlay and GoogleMaps for navigation. Its just so easy, type the destination on your phone and its right there, etc. I use both, if I enter a destination manually I will use the MB Navigation but I also will enter destinations on the phone and use the Google Maps.

Like I said, I appreciate having both.

 

The Tesla Nav is almost identical in look and feel to Google maps nav, so I'm curious to know what you think about Apple Carplay maps as being light years ahead of Tesla's Nav in terms of look and feel as mentioned by swjames.

It seems you prefer to use Google maps nav and not Carplay based on your feedback above, that's why I'm curious.

 

I almost exclusively use Waze as well but before starting out I will bring up Waze, Apple Maps and Google Maps. Whichever one gets me there fastest that’s the one I run. Sometimes I will run 2 at a time in case one redirects me around some traffic faster than the other. But yes I love the option of having multiple choices of nav systems.

 

The 3d-perspective location-accurate animated graphics on Apple Maps navigation are significantly better than the graphics on the standard Tesla navigation which are rudimentary. The level of detail Apple delivers is off the charts. Location-accurate road markings, clear animations on junctions, and now with police and other hazard warnings. It does vary by location, but if you are in a well mapped area the detail and accuracy is impressive. And you have to factor in that there are way more iPhones on the road at any given point in time than there are Teslas. Apple has access to significantly more location and situation data. Tesla obviously does amazing things with data collected from its owners, but there aren’t nearly as many of them. I just find it odd that Tesla users are wowed by visually impressive but functionally useless movable 3d renderings of their car but put up with something much more rudimentary on the navigation app.