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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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And to be clear, I’m not claiming an over-the-top portable infotainment system like CarPlay is better or a substitute for a full end-to-end stack like Tesla which is the gold standard from a feature and functionally perspective. I’m saying based on what I’ve observed Apple navigation has a much richer in-use UI than Tesla navigation, and the added benefit of millions more iPhones contributing real-time data.

and as at least one person here knows, I’ve been looking to buy a Tesla this week so the rudimentary nav isn’t a deal killer 😉
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames
And to be clear, I’m not claiming an over-the-top portable infotainment system like CarPlay is better or a substitute for a full end-to-end stack like Tesla which is the gold standard from a feature and functionally perspective. I’m saying based on what I’ve observed Apple navigation has a much richer in-use UI than Tesla navigation, and the added benefit of millions more iPhones contributing real-time data.

and as at least one person here knows, I’ve been looking to buy a Tesla this week so the rudimentary nav isn’t a deal killer 😉
there is definitely a diff between europe and usa, both with Tesla and Apple. Our Tesla maps are better and updates they keep doing to nav in past 12 months are really nice.
I can see camera warnings, i can see roadworks, live mapping is same as with google maps, and now i can even see precipitation along my route.

it works well, i dont use waze anymore.
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
there is definitely a diff between europe and usa, both with Tesla and Apple. Our Tesla maps are better and updates they keep doing to nav in past 12 months are really nice.
I can see camera warnings, i can see roadworks, live mapping is same as with google maps, and now i can even see precipitation along my route.

it works well, i dont use waze anymore.
All that is available in USA maps as well. Not sure about roadwork
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
there is definitely a diff between europe and usa, both with Tesla and Apple. Our Tesla maps are better and updates they keep doing to nav in past 12 months are really nice.
I can see camera warnings, i can see roadworks, live mapping is same as with google maps, and now i can even see precipitation along my route.

it works well, i dont use waze anymore.
What about cops? Waze will tell you that the police are reported ahead. Do you see that in Europe on the Tesla maps?
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
And to be clear, I’m not claiming an over-the-top portable infotainment system like CarPlay is better or a substitute for a full end-to-end stack like Tesla which is the gold standard from a feature and functionally perspective. I’m saying based on what I’ve observed Apple navigation has a much richer in-use UI than Tesla navigation, and the added benefit of millions more iPhones contributing real-time data.

and as at least one person here knows, I’ve been looking to buy a Tesla this week so the rudimentary nav isn’t a deal killer 😉
The "rudimentary nav" has (so far in 5 years) never left me stranded or wanting for prettier graphics etc.

I couldn't care less about fancy 3D renderings of the Tesla UI.

​​​​Lets agree to disagree that the Nav looks dated and how rudimentary it is in terms of feel.

I'm glad the rudimentary nav is not a show stopper for buying a Tesla, because if it was, that would be a bit of a "huh?!" moment. 👍
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 03:55 PM
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My wife's car has Apple Car Play and the only thing I like about it better is access to Waze. The notifications about the fuzz are very helpful.
I keep my phone running Waze in parallel to my Rivian/Tesla nav for that reason. I keep the screen off and just keep audio alerts on. Very helpful to have.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 11:10 AM
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What about cops? Waze will tell you that the police are reported ahead. Do you see that in Europe on the Tesla maps?
You don't understand, there's not a single thing that Tesla doesn't do better than everybody else, and it's morally wrong to ever imply differently on this forum. IDK why everybody hasn't done the right thing and sold all their non -Teslas and purchased a Model 3.
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You don't understand, there's not a single thing that Tesla doesn't do better than everybody else, and it's morally wrong to ever imply differently on this forum. IDK why everybody hasn't done the right thing and sold all their non -Teslas and purchased a Model 3.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 11:39 AM
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BTW, happy new Year everyone! Heading back home to NorCal today, trying to get the wife out. I'm afraid of the totally epic traffic we are about to face
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
BTW, happy new Year everyone! Heading back home to NorCal today, trying to get the wife out. I'm afraid of the totally epic traffic we are about to face
Happy New Year. Be safe on the road!! FSD FTW!! It’s pretty darn good!!
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
I keep my phone running Waze in parallel to my Rivian/Tesla nav for that reason. I keep the screen off and just keep audio alerts on. Very helpful to have.
Yeah, the popo notifications are a must for me.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Happy New Year. Be safe on the road!! FSD FTW!! It’s pretty darn good!!
Thanks 👍 Been using Autopilot. Never seen Tesla chargers this full. Had to wait 2 minutes for a charger 🤣
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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
The Tesla Nav is almost identical in look and feel to Google maps nav, so I'm curious to know what you think about Apple Carplay maps as being light years ahead of Tesla's Nav in terms of look and feel as mentioned by swjames.

It seems you prefer to use Google maps nav and not Carplay based on your feedback above, that's why I'm curious.
I've not used the built in Tesla navigation. Its not just GoogleMaps though, you have Waze and Apple Maps, you have the apple designed interface for apple music and messaging, etc. Other apps that use CarPlay that can be very useful.

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What about cops? Waze will tell you that the police are reported ahead. Do you see that in Europe on the Tesla maps?
Google Maps does the same now.

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The "rudimentary nav" has (so far in 5 years) never left me stranded or wanting for prettier graphics etc.

I couldn't care less about fancy 3D renderings of the Tesla UI.

​​​​Lets agree to disagree that the Nav looks dated and how rudimentary it is in terms of feel.

I'm glad the rudimentary nav is not a show stopper for buying a Tesla, because if it was, that would be a bit of a "huh?!" moment. 👍
This is why having CarPlay/AA as an option is best. You can use the built in system or CarPlay. Whichever you prefer. I like things about each and use both.
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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 09:14 AM
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This is why having CarPlay/AA as an option is best. You can use the built in system or CarPlay. Whichever you prefer. I like things about each and use both.
No, I wasn't asking your opinion of the Tesla Nav. I was asking your opinion of Carplay vs. Google maps as you seemed to prefer Google maps. The Tesla map base is Google map base. So your opinion on Google maps would theoretically be very similar to what it would be for the Tesla Nav.

Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with .

I also occasionally use ABetterRoutePlanner in the browser of the Tesla UI

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Originally Posted by Hameed
No, I wasn't asking your opinion of the Tesla Nav. I was asking your opinion of Carplay vs. Google maps as you seemed to prefer Google maps. The Tesla map base is Google map base. So your opinion on Google maps would theoretically be very similar to what it would be for the Tesla Nav.

Yeah, I sometimes use Google maps when I want to double check the Tesla recommended route based on traffic when I'm in an area I'm familiar with .

I also occasionally use ABetteeRoutePlanner in the browser of the Tesla UI
You mean Apple Maps vs Google Maps? CarPlay isn't a mapping system, I use GoogleMaps through CarPlay.

I prefer Google Maps because I like the satellite map. Really thats the only reason, Apple Maps is also great. I find Waze is the best at routing around traffic. Thats why I like to have all of them as options. ABRP also has a CarPlay app.
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