Duh! You don't have to own anything to be a fan of it. I can't argue worth a dime? Ok, buddy. Maybe, you should spend more time learning proper English grammar.

 

Sounds a lot like China. Internet commentators were hired by the authorities of the People's Republic of China to manipulate public opinion and disseminate disinformation to the benefit of the governing Chinese Communist Party (CCP). I think you might have heard of them, they were called the 50 Cent Army?

 

What could be more sportier than a MK5 Supra, GR Corolla or GR86? Heck, the Koreans have no answers to these sporty Toyotas.

 

China still does this, more than ever.

 

Or use whatever someone says against them or continue to evade directly answering the questions. Tactics well used and only used by the one who shall remain nameless.

 

As opposed to what tactic, name-calling and conspiracy theory shouting?

The CCP conspiracy claim is especially hilarious from someone who continuously promotes some questionable Vietnamese car brand with ties to their government.

This thread is basically finished.

 

M340i, Audi S4/5......

 

The Supra is a BMW...basically a two door M340 so its pretty quick. Nothing else Toyota/Lexus makes is fast. At least they stuck the V8 in the Lexus lineup so it has adequate speed but a dual motor Ioniq 5 / EV6 family hauler is about as fast. It is what it is.

 

I think he was saying mainstream brands. Something likes a Elanta N or Veloster N. or a Jetta GLI

 

And just in time, Scotty does a video about Jagwars, lol. I don't think he's mispronouncing Jaguar because he racist against the British, even JC does that.

 

The MK5 Supra is a rebadged BMW Z4 Roadster, the GR86 is a Subaru BRZ (and vice versa), the GR Corolla is the only actual car built by Toyota you named. The GR Corolla, though a great car will only appeal to a limited crowd. Hyundai, Kia and Genesis have different sporty models that appeals to multiple types of people, including many on this forum that own both Toyota and Lexus autos.The N series Veloster, Elantra and Kona compete perfectly with the Corolla GR, and not only offers Manual transmission, but excellent high performance wet clutch DCT transmissions that have been praised by every reviewer. Also because they have vastly different styling between the three cars, they offer something for different types of people.

I'm really not sure why you are so hostile to this brand in particular. There are brands I really don't care for, but if other people buy them, it really doesn't bother me

 

Till you super it.....

 

Or turbo. But you can make anything fast with time and money right . Easier just to buy a BMW M340 and turn up the boost.

 

Claiming that the Koreans don't have sporty cars is hilarious when they currently have three N cars sold in the U.S., two other N cars sold in Europe, an entire luxury line where every single car is RWD-based with twin turbo V6's or EV motors making around 400 HP, and two EV's that make around 600 horsepower.

The one car our friend neglected to mention for Toyota is the IS500, which is actually very enthusiast-oriented. But that's more for the novelty of the V8 rather than its actual performance ability.

 

This wasn't directed towards you. It was directed towards Och who tends to make over the top statements with zero backing. My theory is he's a closet EV enthusiast trying to clown us. Nice try Och...I'm on to you