ICE vs EV fires
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Apr 1, 2022 at 07:41 PM.
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More people burn down their houses cooking, overloading a surge protector, or forgetting to turn off a toaster oven. My grandmothers Chevy Nova burned down due to a small gasoline leak that was imperceptible. With all the millions of EV's on the road, there's only been a few fires linked to batteries since 2014. When is the grasping for straws going to end?
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Apr 3, 2022 at 06:44 AM.
More people burn down their houses cooking, overloading a surge protector, or forgetting to turn off a toaster oven. My grandmothers Chevy Nova burned down due to a small gasoline leak that was imperceptible. With all the millions of EV's on the road, there's only been a few fires linked to batteries since 2014. When is the grasping for straws going to end?
your example of a ICE leaking and burning down is one made in the 1960s-70s?
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; Apr 3, 2022 at 07:12 AM.
"only" 4 fires (good ol reliable wikipedia), not really https://www.tesla-fire.com/ and this isnt even all EVs and only the ones an article was written for. Theres been far more than 4 different articles posted about EV fires in this forum alone in the past year.
your example of a ICE leaking and burning down is one made in the 1960s-70s?
your example of a ICE leaking and burning down is one made in the 1960s-70s?
all the links are there and those 4 incidents according to wiki (2012, 2013, 2013, 2013) and youre saying NONE have happened since then? Sounds like that wiki entry was created in Feb 2014 and has never has been updated. There is a big difference between "as of" and "since" GM confirmed there were 16 Bolts that caught fire, prompting a recall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...fire_incidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...fire_incidents
As of February 2014, four fires after an impact have been reported associated with the batteries of plug-in electric cars. The first crash related fire was reported in China in May 2012, after a high-speed car crashed into a BYD e6 taxi in Shenzhen.[4] Two incidents occurred with the Tesla Model S in October 2013, one when a Model S caught fire after the electric car hit metal debris on a highway in Kent, Washington,[5] and another involving a loss of control and collision with a tree in Merida, Mexico.[6] A Tesla Model S being driven on a highway near Murfreesboro, Tennessee caught fire in November 2013 after it struck a tow hitch on the roadway, causing damage beneath the vehicle.[7]
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; Apr 3, 2022 at 07:21 AM.
The specific situation in question was,, how many fires for EVs that started when just plugging it in. For Tesla, it would probably be less than 4 given every Tesla news is magnified by a thousand.
For other EVs, there was a Bolt recall with this specific issue. Of course ICEs also tend to have a risk of fire in a garage as the Kias were also recalled.
For other EVs, there was a Bolt recall with this specific issue. Of course ICEs also tend to have a risk of fire in a garage as the Kias were also recalled.
Like I said before, its whatever fits their worldview must be true.
I actually personally know someone who's ICE car started a fire parked in his garage and burned his house down. These things can and do happen but they are extraordinarily rare.
I would park an EV in my garage and charge it without fear.
I actually personally know someone who's ICE car started a fire parked in his garage and burned his house down. These things can and do happen but they are extraordinarily rare.
I would park an EV in my garage and charge it without fear.
Like I said before, its whatever fits their worldview must be true.
I actually personally know someone who's ICE car started a fire parked in his garage and burned his house down. These things can and do happen but they are extraordinarily rare.
I would park an EV in my garage and charge it without fear.
I actually personally know someone who's ICE car started a fire parked in his garage and burned his house down. These things can and do happen but they are extraordinarily rare.
I would park an EV in my garage and charge it without fear.
Let's put this in the perspective, with ICE cars only about 1% of fires originate at the gas tank. Majority of fires are either electrical short, or something physically being dragged - something that can happen to EVs as well. Small percentage are also arsons and hot oil/gas leaking onto hot exhaust.
When it comes to EVs, their battery chemistry is premixed for explosion akin to dynamite, and battery explosions are a real concern. They have already suspended the sales for the Chevy EV due to battery fires, and as manufacturers try to squeeze more and more energy into the batteries, the fire risk keeps increasing. Tesla's new 4680 batteries that they have been touting for years have not entered mass production precisely for this reason.
With that being said, the fire risk is minimal and not really a concern. As long as the car is new, well maintained and undamaged, and the charger is working properly, it's just not an issue. The risk somewhat increases as the car gets older, but the same is true for ICEs. A real concern are cheap aftermarket and remanufactured Li-Cnsm batteries. These are dangerous in electronic devices, and especially dangerous in huge EV battery packs. While cheap aftermarket Prius batteries simply don't hold the charge as well as the original battery, and the worst that can happen is they leak and corrode everything around them, the risk of explosion of with a cheap Lithium battery is a huge concern.
When it comes to EVs, their battery chemistry is premixed for explosion akin to dynamite, and battery explosions are a real concern. They have already suspended the sales for the Chevy EV due to battery fires, and as manufacturers try to squeeze more and more energy into the batteries, the fire risk keeps increasing. Tesla's new 4680 batteries that they have been touting for years have not entered mass production precisely for this reason.
With that being said, the fire risk is minimal and not really a concern. As long as the car is new, well maintained and undamaged, and the charger is working properly, it's just not an issue. The risk somewhat increases as the car gets older, but the same is true for ICEs. A real concern are cheap aftermarket and remanufactured Li-Cnsm batteries. These are dangerous in electronic devices, and especially dangerous in huge EV battery packs. While cheap aftermarket Prius batteries simply don't hold the charge as well as the original battery, and the worst that can happen is they leak and corrode everything around them, the risk of explosion of with a cheap Lithium battery is a huge concern.












