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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 05:45 PM
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Its just reactionary BS. In one of those articles they literally said there are 132 gas vehicle fires EVERY DAY in the US lol
ok but there’s LOTS more ICE vehicles. That stat only matters as a %
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Originally Posted by tex2670
ok but there’s LOTS more ICE vehicles. That stat only matters as a %
I posted the rate per.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Race 105 leaded just hits different man.....smells fantastic at events/races IMO
Race gas smells amazing, can't argue with that.

Whatever crap they make batteries out of just smells awful and toxic.
Old Apr 5, 2022 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
One of the reasons I won't consider an EV for many years to come is the chance of a fire occurring at my house during the middle of the night.
Do not buy a Hyundai gas or a Hyundai EV. Both have “do not park in the garage” warnings.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Do not buy a Hyundai gas or a Hyundai EV. Both have “do not park in the garage” warnings.
Those are the 2017 through 2019 Ioniq's. I have the 2020 and it's not part of the battery recall, I plug it in next to my house every night
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Do not buy a Hyundai gas or a Hyundai EV. Both have “do not park in the garage” warnings.
Yeah, it's like every two months there's a major engine recall on a Hyundai or Kia for risk of fire. People love cars from that brand but they are junk.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
. People love cars from that brand but they are junk.
I wouldn’t call them junk. It’s just Toyota is always 2 steps ahead of Hyundai
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I wouldn’t call them junk. It’s just Toyota is always 2 steps ahead of Hyundai
Depends. Toyota is many steps behind them in EV.
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Old Apr 5, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
Depends. Toyota is many steps behind them in EV.
Toyota will build and sell many EV's when the market calls for it. Not even 1% of vehicles on the road are electric. Currently there is not nearly enough infrastructure support for them but once that changes, expect Toyota to be a leader.

Besides, if Hyundai can't build an engine without it being recalled every two months due to a fire risk, what makes you think they can build a reliable, safe EV?
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Toyota will build and sell many EV's when the market calls for it. Not even 1% of vehicles on the road are electric. Currently there is not nearly enough infrastructure support for them but once that changes, expect Toyota to be a leader.

Besides, if Hyundai can't build an engine without it being recalled every two months due to a fire risk, what makes you think they can build a reliable, safe EV?
More than 1% of vehicles on the road are electric. A simple google of the penetration rate of EVs yield about 2.5% in 2020. https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/...ge-in-ev-sales

In terms of sales, EVs are around 9% of the global car market sales in 2021. https://electrek.co/2022/02/02/globa...-doubled-2021/

The Ioniq 5 has been on sale for over a year in South Korea and was their 1st ground up EV platform. Has about 250-300 miles of range and can charge from 10-80% in 18 minutes and does the 0-60 in less than 5s. No issues so far and seems like the battery platform is solid

Toyota is bringing its vaunted BZ4X with a 250 mile range, 10-80% in 56 minutes and does the 0-60 in 7s. Pathetic
Old Apr 5, 2022 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Toyota will build and sell many EV's when the market calls for it. Not even 1% of vehicles on the road are electric. Currently there is not nearly enough infrastructure support for them but once that changes, expect Toyota to be a leader.

Besides, if Hyundai can't build an engine without it being recalled every two months due to a fire risk, what makes you think they can build a reliable, safe EV?
It's not true that Hyundai's are unreliable. Toyota has had it's share of recalls, including the 2nd gen IS350 which I own which had two that were engine related. Yes Toyota/Lexus is more reliable as a brand, but Hyundai has caught up and even surpassed Toyota with way better tech and infotainment systems. I don't care about infotainment systems, but most buyers do.

I don't say this lightly as a Toyota/Lexus fanboy with over 25 years of owning almost nothing else (I strayed to Honda for one year in 2018 but came back) but Toyota blew it with EV'S. They are so far behind Hyundai it's sad. They are also behind Ford and GM, which is extremely sad. I'm sure once they fully commit they will make good ones, but they will be behind the competition. And what they are coming out with is a bit pathetic when compared to Hyundai and others. It pains me to say it, but it's the truth.

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't say this lightly as a Toyota/Lexus fanboy with over 25 years of owning almost nothing else (I strayed to Honda for one year in 2018 but came back) but Toyota blew it with EV'S. They are so far behind Hyundai it's sad. They are also behind Ford and GM, which is extremely sad. I'm sure once they fully commit they will make good ones, but they will be behind the competition. And what they are coming out with is a bit pathetic when compared to Hyundai and others. It pains me to say it, but it's the truth.
Toyota is extremely arrogant they will never accept not being the industry leader. That's why they shunned EVs it wasn't Toyota that pushed them into the mainstream Akio Toyoda can't be seen as a follower. Problem is it's pure fantasy to think Toyota can get in "at the right time" that is veiled way of saying the company is falling further and further behind. They have barely begun to secure material supply, build out battery factories, hire software engineers, pursue FSD and so many other things. Heck are they doing any of that?

I'm the same as you dyed in the wool Toyota nut. The company is in deep, deep trouble it just hasn't reached the boiling point yet.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Toyota will build and sell many EV's when the market calls for it.
Toyota sells every single car they make. Will be the same for their EVs. Will grow them really fast.
Old Apr 6, 2022 | 05:33 AM
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ok folks, this thread is about ICE vs EV fires, not the present and future of hyundai vs toyota.
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If Toyota is successful with their solid state battery tech, there will be no Toyota EV fires.



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