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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Hi mods, move EV fire risk to new thread?

This may be a big subject and I don't think it should be here in general EV chat, just IMHO.

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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
ok, let me help when you go to disney world, i think finding a tesla charger will not be an issue... disney even has them ON PROPERTY.
But why do I want to do that? With a gas car I never have to refuel it at all until I take it back to the airport. I drive it from the hotel to a park and back again. There are chargers in the parking lots at the park but you can only stay parked at them for 4 hours I believe then you have to move the car or they will tow it. Why do I want to have to worry about going back out to the lot to move the car?

I just still haven’t seen anything that makes me want to rent an EV other than being able to try out an EV.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Unless there will never be an ICE car in the garage, installing a smoke detector is a bad idea. They are also more likely to produce faults (positive or negative) in extreme temperatures. Best practice is to install a heat detector in the garage.
Smoke detector is useless as temps approach the freezing point never mind going way into negative numbers. You are absolutely right at best you will get false alarms. Which reminds me I need to get a heat alarm I thought about it at one time then completely forgot.

....well I just checked several local retailers none of them have one only smoke detectors. Amazon wins again.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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Smoke detector is useless as temps approach the freezing point never mind going way into negative numbers. You are absolutely right at best you will get false alarms. Which reminds me I need to get a heat alarm I thought about it at one time then completely forgot.

....well I just checked several local retailers none of them have one only smoke detectors. Amazon wins again.
Amazon won't ship smoke alarms, heat alarms, or co alarms to California, probably because of radioactive materials in them
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:13 AM
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Fire wouldn’t concern me in the slightest if I owned an EV.

The odds of that are ridiculous.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Amazon won't ship smoke alarms, heat alarms, or co alarms to California, probably because of radioactive materials in them
lmao.

California thinks just about everything causes cancer even things that are made from non-toxic metals I see the warnings on auto parts all the time it's ridiculous. There is a tiny amount of radioactive material (Americium-241) in most smoke alarms but you get about 1,000,000 times more radiation just sitting there, cosmic rays.

Speaking of rays and such, some people think EVs are bad for your health because you're sitting on batteries the electricity will slowly kill you.
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Fire wouldn’t concern me in the slightest if I owned an EV.

The odds of that are ridiculous.
I am getting a heat detector because I have high current in use in the garage. Amost zero chance anything goes wrong (wired everything myself so I know it's good) but less than 0% chance means possible.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Hi mods, move EV fire risk to new thread?

This may be a big subject and I don't think it should be here in general EV chat, just IMHO.

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I'm not trying to minimize the fire threat that lithium ion battery packs pose, when an EV catches fire, it can get dangerous and it's harder to put out. BTW I talked to someone on the Polestar forum who said he was a firefighter, and they do have a strategy, which is too keep the other battery packs from igniting by keeping them cool and letting the cells on fire burn themselves out.

Battery packs go through extensive testing, including shooting a giant bolt through them. I know BYD, CATL and Tesla perform this test, the damaged cells then isolate themselves to prevent a fire. They also crash test vehicles to make sure the packs don't explode or catch fire.

If course as more EVs hit the road, we'll have more real world data, but at this point, I feel that there are more chance I'll be killed by a drunk driver than my EVs battery packs catching fire
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Houses go up, it happens. It’s a risk anyway. Some mansion burned completely down in this neighborhood down the street and almost took neighbors’ houses with it. Something gas blew.

https://www.wate.com/news/local-news/fire-destroys-multimillion-dollar-home-near-gettysvue-golf-course/amp/
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
lmao.

California thinks just about everything causes cancer even things that are made from non-toxic metals I see the warnings on auto parts all the time it's ridiculous. There is a tiny amount of radioactive material (Americium-241) in most smoke alarms but you get about 1,000,000 times more radiation just sitting there, cosmic rays.

Speaking of rays and such, some people think EVs are bad for your health because you're sitting on batteries the electricity will slowly kill you.

I am getting a heat detector because I have high current in use in the garage. Amost zero chance anything goes wrong (wired everything myself so I know it's good) but less than 0% chance means possible.
Leave it to California 🤣🤣

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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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I likely wouldn’t leave my EV charging in the garage when I went away on a trip. I do unplug my charging batteries for my lawn equipment etc when I go away. To me that’s just a reasonable safety precaution.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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Me either I'm taking the EV for long trips. So much more relaxing and enjoyable.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Me either I'm taking the EV for long trips. So much more relaxing and enjoyable.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:50 AM
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I don't care if it costs 2x more (it cost ME about 1/3rd) I'm still taking the Tesla.

Comment section on that video is an EV haters paradise.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
This guy is an extreme case and probably lives in an area where there is no competition. On average, I pay 0.33 cents per kWh on trips, and because of the excellent mileage I get, I pay less than half of what I would if I took my gas car.

That being said, if you don't have the ability to charge at home, it's probably better to get a hybrid if fuel costs are your biggest concern
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:56 AM
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I honestly don’t care what it would cost to charge on a trip, it would never equal the savings of not having to buy gas day to day.

My issue is having there be plenty of chargers with plenty of availability
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