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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 08:42 AM
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Mercedes first Electric car, the SLS AMG


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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
Does this actually smell of a good-looking EV merc, other than the EQXX prototype?
Don't worry, they're about to do something about the hideous looks and change them all around looks wise and maybe even drop the EQ name. What a shock, nobody wants a god awful looking Mercedes Benz for 100 thousand bucks.

https://www.autoblog.com/2024/02/12/...s%20a%20prefix.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 09:43 AM
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They announced they were dropping the EQ names a long time ago, but I see it's making the news again. The next-gen "electric first" CLA was always coming without EQ naming. That car and this upcoming AMG GT 4 door had their designs frozen years ago too, so it's really a delayed public acknowledgement that the bubble cars (EQE & EQS on EVA2 platform) aren't the right path.

Even more interesting is that they're going to give the EQS a new grille later this year along with a hood star. I really don't think that's going to help things. Then for the full mid cycle update that comes a little later, it's getting a 800v architecture, bigger battery, and new motors made in house.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Even more interesting is that they're going to give the EQS a new grille later this year along with a hood star. I really don't think that's going to help things. Then for the full mid cycle update that comes a little later, it's getting a 800v architecture, bigger battery, and new motors made in house.
Where have you seen this? I saw the refresh spy shots but that looks to be the actual mid cycle refresh...and I haven't seen anything about a hood star
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
They announced they were dropping the EQ names a long time ago, but I see it's making the news again. The next-gen "electric first" CLA was always coming without EQ naming. That car and this upcoming AMG GT 4 door had their designs frozen years ago too, so it's really a delayed public acknowledgement that the bubble cars (EQE & EQS on EVA2 platform) aren't the right path.

Even more interesting is that they're going to give the EQS a new grille later this year along with a hood star. I really don't think that's going to help things. Then for the full mid cycle update that comes a little later, it's getting a 800v architecture, bigger battery, and new motors made in house.
I think they should give the EV's completely different model names.

Don't just put an "E" on the front of the EV model names, give it something different.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Where have you seen this? I saw the refresh spy shots but that looks to be the actual mid cycle refresh...and I haven't seen anything about a hood star
All of the news of the equipment started circulating in August 2023. For the grille and star on the hood, I got it from this very reliable Mercedes site: Sensation: Mercedes EQS gets star on the bonnet - JESMB
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
I think they should give the EV's completely different model names.

Don't just put an "E" on the front of the EV model names, give it something different.
I like the way BMW is naming it. Like the ICE drivetrain? It's a 5/7 for you. Like an EV? i5/i7 it is!

We just don't talk about the iX

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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
All of the news of the equipment started circulating in August 2023. For the grille and star on the hood, I got it from this very reliable Mercedes site: Sensation: Mercedes EQS gets star on the bonnet - JESMB
Interesting...interested to see what it looks like
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 11:39 AM
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I can appreciate what they’re trying to do by adding the hood ornament.

Lol if you get it…. “It’s a 2001SEL I paid cash..”. Haha.



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Mustangs, Chargers BMW's and Vettes tired of getting beaten at the track

Tesla driver shares insights after Model 3 gets banned from racing events

There was a time when electric vehicles were not really taken seriously by automotive enthusiasts. After the original Tesla Roadster and the Model S, however, it became more and more difficult to ignore the fact that EVs can perform against combustion-powered cars in competitive events. By the time the Model 3 Performance came into the picture, the anti-EV narrative had already shifted to the idea that electric cars are only good for straight-line races, not the track.

Such narratives have become inaccurate today, with vehicles like the Tesla Model S Plaid and the Model 3 Performance being legitimate vehicles for competitive racing events. This trend could be seen in the lineup of EVs that have shown up at Pikes Peak over the years, as well as the presence of cars like Unplugged Performance’s Model S Plaid racer, Dark Helmet, which won the event’s Exhibition Class in 2021.

Unfortunately, it would appear that electric vehicles are now being prevented from competing in some competitive driving events. As noted by Tesla driver Jon Bickford, whose Model 3 was outfitted with upgraded wheels, suspension, and brakes from EV tuning house Unplugged Performance, he ended up being banned from the Goodguys 2024 Autocross event. What’s ironic is that Bickford’s Model 3 previously performed very well at the event, winning five out of five shootouts last year.

“Well, after setting (the) fastest time of the show 5/5 events and winning 5/5 shootouts last year, it looks like Goodguys decided to ban me a couple weeks before the season,” the Model 3 driver noted, as shared by Unplugged Performance in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

Interestingly enough, Bickford noted that he was also banned from competing in the Hot Rod Power Tour West Autocross event. The Model 3 owner noted that his ban was quite strange since his exhibition lap was faster than the rest of the field. His ban was also announced after he had already driven to the Hot Rod Power Tour west autocross’s location.
also got banned from competing in the Hot Rod Power Tour West Autocross. They let me run ‘exhibition laps.’ I was 0.626 faster than the rest of the field, but not eligible to compete. They made that decision AFTER I left San Diego at 4 a.m. and drove to Vegas motor speedway,” Bickford noted.

It is unfortunate that events like the Goodguys 2024 Autocross have opted to prevent electric vehicles from participating in competitive racing events. The presence of electric cars in such events, after all, drives home the notion that EVs are here to stay — and that they could beat combustion-powered cars on their own turf.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...racing-events/
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Mustangs, Chargers BMW's and Vettes tired of getting beaten at the track

Tesla driver shares insights after Model 3 gets banned from racing events

There was a time when electric vehicles were not really taken seriously by automotive enthusiasts. After the original Tesla Roadster and the Model S, however, it became more and more difficult to ignore the fact that EVs can perform against combustion-powered cars in competitive events. By the time the Model 3 Performance came into the picture, the anti-EV narrative had already shifted to the idea that electric cars are only good for straight-line races, not the track.

Such narratives have become inaccurate today, with vehicles like the Tesla Model S Plaid and the Model 3 Performance being legitimate vehicles for competitive racing events. This trend could be seen in the lineup of EVs that have shown up at Pikes Peak over the years, as well as the presence of cars like Unplugged Performance’s Model S Plaid racer, Dark Helmet, which won the event’s Exhibition Class in 2021.

Unfortunately, it would appear that electric vehicles are now being prevented from competing in some competitive driving events. As noted by Tesla driver Jon Bickford, whose Model 3 was outfitted with upgraded wheels, suspension, and brakes from EV tuning house Unplugged Performance, he ended up being banned from the Goodguys 2024 Autocross event. What’s ironic is that Bickford’s Model 3 previously performed very well at the event, winning five out of five shootouts last year.

https://x.com/TOCNewEngland/status/1...574670385?s=20
“Well, after setting (the) fastest time of the show 5/5 events and winning 5/5 shootouts last year, it looks like Goodguys decided to ban me a couple weeks before the season,” the Model 3 driver noted, as shared by Unplugged Performance in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

Interestingly enough, Bickford noted that he was also banned from competing in the Hot Rod Power Tour West Autocross event. The Model 3 owner noted that his ban was quite strange since his exhibition lap was faster than the rest of the field. His ban was also announced after he had already driven to the Hot Rod Power Tour west autocross’s location.
https://x.com/UnpluggedTesla/status/...6950477?s=20“I also got banned from competing in the Hot Rod Power Tour West Autocross. They let me run ‘exhibition laps.’ I was 0.626 faster than the rest of the field, but not eligible to compete. They made that decision AFTER I left San Diego at 4 a.m. and drove to Vegas motor speedway,” Bickford noted.

It is unfortunate that events like the Goodguys 2024 Autocross have opted to prevent electric vehicles from participating in competitive racing events. The presence of electric cars in such events, after all, drives home the notion that EVs are here to stay — and that they could beat combustion-powered cars on their own turf.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...racing-events/
I don't like that either. A win is a win, feel free to own the F out of it.
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I don't like that either. A win is a win, feel free to own the F out of it.

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I would think that making a class for EV's to compete in would be a smart solution. They drive and are modified differently from ICE's. Let's see some Tesla vs Lucid vs Porsche vs whatever EV's go all out against each other.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
I would think that making a class for EV's to compete in would be a smart solution. They drive and are modified differently from ICE's. Let's see some Tesla vs Lucid vs Porsche vs whatever EV's go all out against each other.
I agree with this. It's already been proven that EV's are on a different level. They should be in their own class.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 06:33 PM
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I agree with this. It's already been proven that EV's are on a different level. They should be in their own class.
I agree as well. Never bring an AR 15 to a musket fight 🤣🤣
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