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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I suspect he's being sarcastic here as well. Call it a feeling
Only partially, plus there are a bunch of people that think EVs are charged 100% from fossil fuel. I know from personal experience.
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
No of course not, all EV chargers secretly have a diesel generator out back.

Impossible, I've been told gas stations are paradise and plugging in a cable is some type of hell.
You heard right





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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
You heard right




I lost way too much weight to look at this, so go away Bay
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I lost way too much weight to look at this, so go away Bay
Don’t worry, it has a clean energy section as well.



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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bayeauxlex
don’t worry, it has a clean energy section as well.

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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
You heard right




Tons of ev chargers at most of these with folks charging. Unlike their gas pumps no sheds or anything, and they are usually located far from the main building. If the future becomes gasless, its a nice way of resetting all the pumps into charging stations en masse, with creature comforts to boot
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Don’t worry, it has a clean energy section as well.

makes one wonder, what would the average EV owner do if they had a choice between more expensive, clean energy charging or a little less expensive non-clean source energy charging? If such a concept ever exist.

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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
not true for my ioniq for example. it's not a moving (up/down) 'stalk' like normal column shifters, it's fixed in position, and you ROTATE the end to select forward/backward/ there's a button in the end to select park.



yes, you've stated this dozens of times.



good for you. i suspect the next bmw i7 will be more like ix3 than the current frankenstein monstrosity.
bitkahuna and SW17LS, both of you exit this thread
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
makes one wonder, what would the average EV owner do if they had a choice between more expensive, clean energy charging or a little less expensive non-clean source energy charging?
You're assuming falsely that most EV owners bought EVs to save the environment. We bought them because they simply perform better, are more efficient, and need almost no maintenance. But the best part is when we put our foot down and look at the surprised look of that guy driving that expensive sports car as he disappears from the rearview mirror 👍
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 09:25 PM
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Remember kids, EV owners are responsible for choosing the cleanest power possible when we charge our cars. Everyone else using electricity we won't talk about that.
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
makes one wonder, what would the average EV owner do if they had a choice between more expensive, clean energy charging or a little less expensive non-clean source energy charging? If such a concept ever exist.
The only interest I have in an EV is from a self sufficiency aspect, refueling at home with solar. Cost wouldn't be a priority in that regard. Energy prices are relatively cheap in Tennessee. Very few have solar panels on their roofs around here. TVA is majority gas and nuclear, followed by coal, hydro and a bit of solar/wind. I also have a home in California. Energy prices are crazy there.

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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil
The only interest I have in an EV is from a self sufficiency aspect, refueling at home with solar. Cost wouldn't be a priority in that regard. Energy prices are relatively cheap in Tennessee. Very few have solar panels on their roofs around here. TVA is majority gas and nuclear, followed by coal, hydro and a bit of solar/wind. I also have a home in California. Energy prices are crazy there.
That's why I went solar. I've almost cut PG&E out of the equation after adding batteries
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
makes one wonder, what would the average EV owner do if they had a choice between more expensive, clean energy charging or a little less expensive non-clean source energy charging? If such a concept ever exist.
most of people do that by installing solar panels, because they feel that in their pocket.

However, I rarely see owners buying EVs to help enviroment. Maybe 10 years ago for BEVs and 20 years ago for HEVs... not as they are mainstream.

I got my MSLR because it is significantly better car than my previous A7. Faster, more luxurious, smoother, quieter, more technology, etc, etc. It is also cheaper to run which was not a thing in my calculation.
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 08:44 AM
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Being around other EV owners (and owning or leasing 5 EV's), most I know didn't buy an EV to Go Green or save money. That's just a side of effect of ownership. It's about the smooth as glass ride, 'whoosh' of the drive train, and the instant when you need it torque and power. 138 MPGe, and $50 a month fueling costs is just a benefit. If you live in California and happen to power your car with Solar, the solar is actually where we are cutting costs because of the higher cost of electricity here, but I installed my solar before I even had an EV, so one had nothing to do with the other
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 08:51 AM
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Most people will almost always think with their wallets, even if they care about the environment. We will only solve the CO2 crisis if we make choices where costs are comparable or cheaper than the current fossil alternatives. EVs are kind of a no-brainer. next to 0 maintenance costs, lower energy costs, and better performance. Even if the initial purchase is more expensive, the break even is relatively quick. People would naturally gravitate towards BEV if people didn't make it political.

As for other environmental choices, like compostable packaging etc, it usually takes government intervention, otherwise producers would not spend the extra money. Breakeven for solar still takes too long.

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