General EV Conversation
Tons of ev chargers at most of these with folks charging. Unlike their gas pumps no sheds or anything, and they are usually located far from the main building. If the future becomes gasless, its a nice way of resetting all the pumps into charging stations en masse, with creature comforts to boot
makes one wonder, what would the average EV owner do if they had a choice between more expensive, clean energy charging or a little less expensive non-clean source energy charging? If such a concept ever exist.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Dec 10, 2025 at 08:51 PM.
not true for my ioniq for example. it's not a moving (up/down) 'stalk' like normal column shifters, it's fixed in position, and you ROTATE the end to select forward/backward/ there's a button in the end to select park.
yes, you've stated this dozens of times.
good for you. i suspect the next bmw i7 will be more like ix3 than the current frankenstein monstrosity.
yes, you've stated this dozens of times.
good for you. i suspect the next bmw i7 will be more like ix3 than the current frankenstein monstrosity.
You're assuming falsely that most EV owners bought EVs to save the environment. We bought them because they simply perform better, are more efficient, and need almost no maintenance. But the best part is when we put our foot down and look at the surprised look of that guy driving that expensive sports car as he disappears from the rearview mirror 👍
The only interest I have in an EV is from a self sufficiency aspect, refueling at home with solar. Cost wouldn't be a priority in that regard. Energy prices are relatively cheap in Tennessee. Very few have solar panels on their roofs around here. TVA is majority gas and nuclear, followed by coal, hydro and a bit of solar/wind. I also have a home in California. Energy prices are crazy there.
Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; Dec 11, 2025 at 06:53 AM.
The only interest I have in an EV is from a self sufficiency aspect, refueling at home with solar. Cost wouldn't be a priority in that regard. Energy prices are relatively cheap in Tennessee. Very few have solar panels on their roofs around here. TVA is majority gas and nuclear, followed by coal, hydro and a bit of solar/wind. I also have a home in California. Energy prices are crazy there.
However, I rarely see owners buying EVs to help enviroment. Maybe 10 years ago for BEVs and 20 years ago for HEVs... not as they are mainstream.
I got my MSLR because it is significantly better car than my previous A7. Faster, more luxurious, smoother, quieter, more technology, etc, etc. It is also cheaper to run which was not a thing in my calculation.
Being around other EV owners (and owning or leasing 5 EV's), most I know didn't buy an EV to Go Green or save money. That's just a side of effect of ownership. It's about the smooth as glass ride, 'whoosh' of the drive train, and the instant when you need it torque and power. 138 MPGe, and $50 a month fueling costs is just a benefit. If you live in California and happen to power your car with Solar, the solar is actually where we are cutting costs because of the higher cost of electricity here, but I installed my solar before I even had an EV, so one had nothing to do with the other
Most people will almost always think with their wallets, even if they care about the environment. We will only solve the CO2 crisis if we make choices where costs are comparable or cheaper than the current fossil alternatives. EVs are kind of a no-brainer. next to 0 maintenance costs, lower energy costs, and better performance. Even if the initial purchase is more expensive, the break even is relatively quick. People would naturally gravitate towards BEV if people didn't make it political.
As for other environmental choices, like compostable packaging etc, it usually takes government intervention, otherwise producers would not spend the extra money. Breakeven for solar still takes too long.
As for other environmental choices, like compostable packaging etc, it usually takes government intervention, otherwise producers would not spend the extra money. Breakeven for solar still takes too long.
Last edited by RXSF; Dec 11, 2025 at 08:59 AM.















