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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
In your non-humble opinion, but that's not really important to most people.

The value of that 13 year old Porsche was around $10k, max. He also got a HUGE upgrade in tech, besides never needing to stop for gas.



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Yeah, something tells me it's nowhere near the cost of going to a gas station, or people would just have gas delivered to their work every week
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 02:39 PM
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What's that giant thing behind the fuel tank? I thought gasoline meant you didn't have to rely on electricity.
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 02:39 PM
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Current Lexus ES. Here is the current Lexus LS, still uses cables as part of the mechanism.

Very few manufacturers have shifters like this anymore.
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
not true for my ioniq for example. it's not a moving (up/down) 'stalk' like normal column shifters, it's fixed in position, and you ROTATE the end to select forward/backward/ there's a button in the end to select park.
Its a physical control and they use the same control on their new ICE vehicles also.

yes, you've stated this dozens of times.
Then stop arguing with me about it lol

good for you. i suspect the next bmw i7 will be more like ix3 than the current frankenstein monstrosity.
The iX3 is an example of an EV that looks and feels largely like a traditional vehicle. Refresh 7 will get the same interior layout yes. With a physical shifter.
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The iX3 is an example of an EV that looks and feels largely like a traditional vehicle.
Huh?????? LOL really? What traditional vehicle is that??? It looks like an EV built from the ground up, which is why traditional BMW owner hate it




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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Very few manufacturers have shifters like this anymore.
Then you've proved my point there is no need for complicated, giant mechanisms unless you're trying to appease old drivers that can't let go.
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I'm starting to be convinced there is a whole lot of trollin going on here in the EV subforum. ICE owners who claim they want an EV, but they want it to be exactly like an ICE vehicle, although it's never going to be like an ICE vehicle because get this...it doesn't have an engine or transmission. They don't care about instant torque, they don't care if it's fast. They don't care if the software is bad or crashes as long as it drives, shifts and acts exactly like their ICE vehicle. And if it adopts anything from Tesla...BAD. They claim they want a Stallion, but they want it to act like a mule. LOL I don't know what to make of this. Someone convince me otherwise
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Yeah, something tells me it's nowhere near the cost of going to a gas station, or people would just have gas delivered to their work every week
I think they're only fueling commercial fleet vehicles-No personal vehicles.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
I think they're only fueling commercial fleet vehicles-No personal vehicles.
OK, that makes sense 👍
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Why is that service needed? Going to a gas station is easy and fast.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
What's that giant thing behind the fuel tank? I thought gasoline meant you didn't have to rely on electricity.
Did they remove diesel generators from charging stations?

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Why is that service needed? Going to a gas station is easy and fast.
Some people think gas stations are stinky.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Did they remove diesel generators from charging stations?



Some people think gas stations are stinky.
I think like you, he was being sarcastic
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Did they remove diesel generators from charging stations?
No of course not, all EV chargers secretly have a diesel generator out back.
Some people think gas stations are stinky.
Impossible, I've been told gas stations are paradise and plugging in a cable is some type of hell.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
No of course not, all EV chargers secretly have a diesel generator out back.

Impossible, I've been told gas stations are paradise and plugging in a cable is some type of hell.
I suspect he's being sarcastic here as well. Call it a feeling
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