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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
According to this report, they delivered 5 in April, but none in May, June or July
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Gravity deliveries started in January according to the link. The Air looks pretty nice kinda boring but the Gravity is downright ugly IMO.
The rollout has been started and stopped because of supply chain issues and other QC issues with the vehicle itself. Its said specifically in the article.

In early May, the interim Chief Executive Officer Marc Winterhoff admitted that the model has faced delays due to supply chain issues.

“While we encountered a modest supply chain bottleneck that had an impact on our timeline, the more important point is that we’re taking the time to get it right, not just getting it out,” Winterhoff said during the company’s first-quarter earnings call.

As exclusively reported on April 2, a source familiar with the matter told EV back then that April volumes would be “very small,” and that higher-volume output likely wouldn’t begin until “June or July.”

An update on the production ramp-up is expected at Lucid‘s second-quarter earnings call scheduled for next week, on September 5.
Clearly the rollout has been further delayed. I have talked to Lucid about the Gravity and there is no way to take delivery of one at this time, no deliveries are happening. Just with the Air the rollout will be slow and painful and then they will start to get their feet under themselves.

The Gravity looks much better in person, and its a seriously impressive vehicle. Its incredibly space efficient, like the Air.
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 04:26 PM
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Fun fact I believe the past president of Lean Designs/MunroLive is part of the Lucid Gravity Team.
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 08:02 PM
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I actually saw a Gravity out in the wild, wasn't a test car or anything, had new plates
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 08:10 PM
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Haven't seen anything but the Air so far
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 08:14 PM
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it was on the 101 N bound near the 92
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
A lot of that is platform development costs which are front loaded.
don't think so, the mach-e started selling as a 2021 model, for example.
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Ford is building new factories, new battery plants and is announcing what is rumored to be an all new platform next week.

Almost every legacy investing in these things is going to show losses but most don't separately itemize like Ford as most are not organized in divisions which report individually. In other cases, investments in the same things Ford is investing in would just result in lower overall margin and profit at the top level. In Ford's case all EV costs are reported via the Model E division.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
don't think so, the mach-e started selling as a 2021 model, for example.
The massive cost of that is still being amortized
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Heard some industry talk, but look forward to August 11th Ford EV Day
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The massive cost of that is still being amortized
i could be wrong but i doubt hyundai/kia/genesis are sustaining the massive losses on ev’s like ford and gm.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i could be wrong but i hyundai/kia/genesis are sustaining the massive losses on ev’s like ford and gm.
And I guarantee they have the same losses, they’re just not making the headlines.
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Hyundai Kia group does not report electric vehicle financials separately you can't guarantee anything. I read recently their operating margins on EVs is 9% but that's an estimate, if true this beats Tesla.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Hyundai Kia group does not report electric vehicle financials separately you can't guarantee anything. I read recently their operating margins on EVs is 9% but that's an estimate, if true this beats Tesla.
I feel pretty confident in what I said, thanks.
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And I guarantee they have the same losses, they’re just not making the headlines.
what is your ‘guarantee’ based on?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
what is your ‘guarantee’ based on?
My own experience looking at the production costs of new EV platforms and the length of time it takes for those investments to become profitable. You don't have to agree, its okay.
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