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Someone in my neighborhood just got a new black BMW i5 M60. It drove past me yesterday as I was outside with my son and we both were like "oh wow...!" Great looking car. Looks great in motion.
Someone in my neighborhood just got a new black BMW i5 M60. It drove past me yesterday as I was outside with my son and we both were like "oh wow...!" Great looking car. Looks great in motion.
Bmw really understood the assignment, folks want a turn key experience with ev designs, not just aerodynamic efficiency eggs like the eq series.
They are still discounting them heavy, but rate of adoption for them is high amongst legacy luxury.
Someone in my neighborhood just got a new black BMW i5 M60. It drove past me yesterday as I was outside with my son and we both were like "oh wow...!" Great looking car. Looks great in motion.
An i5 is definitely on my list if I ever decide to buy a non Tesla. Drives beautifully, just a bit on the heavy side, and not nearly as efficient. I see a ton of i5's where I live
Bmw really understood the assignment, folks want a turn key experience with ev designs, not just aerodynamic efficiency eggs like the eq series.
They are still discounting them heavy, but rate of adoption for them is high amongst legacy luxury.
I 100% agree. I don't personally care if a car shaped like my MYP is 10-15% more efficient in range due to its shape (BTW I'm making up those stats). I drive our car like 60-70 miles/day around town at the most. I've had my car just over 2 years and I've now used a Supercharger 3 times. So I barely care about the charging network, because I charge at home 99% of the time.
What I do really care about is the way it drives, the user interface, and the overall "experience" of the software in all aspects. I'm gonna go look at the i5.
The new 5 is nice. Looks much better in person. What lets it down is interior quality.
Unfortunately that will be the trend for a lot of next generation products, as the industry contends with higher RD costs for EVs. I got some x3 time recently, wow this brings back sitting in the e83 protoype and asking if this was indeed a bmw product.
I 100% agree. I don't personally care if a car shaped like my MYP is 10-15% more efficient in range due to its shape (BTW I'm making up those stats). I drive our car like 60-70 miles/day around town at the most. I've had my car just over 2 years and I've now used a Supercharger 3 times. So I barely care about the charging network, because I charge at home 99% of the time.
What I do really care about is the way it drives, the user interface, and the overall "experience" of the software in all aspects. I'm gonna go look at the i5.
I didn't like the UI, and I had to figure out how to put it in drive, but the driving dynamics were excellent. Very comfortable interior and design, and it had a HUD. Definitely try one out, you can get a great lease deal on one
I 100% agree. I don't personally care if a car shaped like my MYP is 10-15% more efficient in range due to its shape (BTW I'm making up those stats). I drive our car like 60-70 miles/day around town at the most. I've had my car just over 2 years and I've now used a Supercharger 3 times. So I barely care about the charging network, because I charge at home 99% of the time.
What I do really care about is the way it drives, the user interface, and the overall "experience" of the software in all aspects. I'm gonna go look at the i5.
So this is massively disingenuous. Not only was this article specifically about trying to make a trip in the worst possible circumstances, including starting with less than a full charge and routes with less than optimal infrastructure, it compares the unrealistic no-stop time added Google Maps base journey time with actual stops added EV time. There were also chargers with only 50 kWh available, and some where there were waits, which would have been avoided with better planning. My most recent 500 mile plus EV trip didn't add much time at all to the time had I taken one of our ICE cars. Left with 100% charge, three short stops at Tesla Superchargers when I would have stopped anyway, and I was able to use faster moving carpool lanes as a solo driver so I made up a lot of time that would have been lost if I were in an ICE and unable to access the HOV lanes. Regardless, that article isn't making any real point other than **** poor planning delivers **** poor performance, as the old sayin goes.
So this is massively disingenuous. Not only was this article specifically about trying to make a trip in the worst possible circumstances, including starting with less than a full charge and routes with less than optimal infrastructure, it compares the unrealistic no-stop time added Google Maps base journey time with actual stops added EV time. There were also chargers with only 50 kWh available, and some where there were waits, which would have been avoided with better planning. My most recent 500 mile plus EV trip didn't add much time at all to the time had I taken one of our ICE cars. Left with 100% charge, three short stops at Tesla Superchargers when I would have stopped anyway, and I was able to use faster moving carpool lanes as a solo driver so I made up a lot of time that would have been lost if I were in an ICE and unable to access the HOV lanes. Regardless, that article isn't making any real point other than **** poor planning delivers **** poor performance, as the old sayin goes.
So this is massively disingenuous. Not only was this article specifically about trying to make a trip in the worst possible circumstances, including starting with less than a full charge and routes with less than optimal infrastructure, it compares the unrealistic no-stop time added Google Maps base journey time with actual stops added EV time. There were also chargers with only 50 kWh available, and some where there were waits, which would have been avoided with better planning. My most recent 500 mile plus EV trip didn't add much time at all to the time had I taken one of our ICE cars. Left with 100% charge, three short stops at Tesla Superchargers when I would have stopped anyway, and I was able to use faster moving carpool lanes as a solo driver so I made up a lot of time that would have been lost if I were in an ICE and unable to access the HOV lanes. Regardless, that article isn't making any real point other than **** poor planning delivers **** poor performance, as the old sayin goes.
You stopped every 167 miles to charge? You had a pretty good pace!!
So this is massively disingenuous. Not only was this article specifically about trying to make a trip in the worst possible circumstances, including starting with less than a full charge and routes with less than optimal infrastructure, it compares the unrealistic no-stop time added Google Maps base journey time with actual stops added EV time. There were also chargers with only 50 kWh available, and some where there were waits, which would have been avoided with better planning. My most recent 500 mile plus EV trip didn't add much time at all to the time had I taken one of our ICE cars. Left with 100% charge, three short stops at Tesla Superchargers when I would have stopped anyway, and I was able to use faster moving carpool lanes as a solo driver so I made up a lot of time that would have been lost if I were in an ICE and unable to access the HOV lanes. Regardless, that article isn't making any real point other than **** poor planning delivers **** poor performance, as the old sayin goes.
When I go to see my sister in Savannah. I leave Toronto without any idea where I am gonna stop (aside from hotel) (but last time no hotel just drive straight with an unexpected 2hr wait at the Buffalo order on the way back)
reading the the first page:
I knew it could cover as much as 270 miles at a steady 70 mph in temperate weather, but that 200 miles was more likely at higher speeds in the cold
I knew that it could replenish up to 134 miles in 15 minutes of charging or 225 miles after 30 minutes
EV9’s built-in trip planner was never going to deliver the flexibility I needed to time my charging stops with food and bathroom breaks for the kids
I plotted our best options
This reminds me of travelling when there was just maps. When was one travelling, one had to pre plan and think….
gonna read the article now.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Feb 17, 2025 at 06:37 PM.
You stopped every 167 miles to charge? You had a pretty good pace!!
If I used my Sienna for all my long trips, I would probably save 40 minutes. You definitely need to plan properly, especially on big holiday weekends, but it's well worth it, IMO of course. I've done more trips than I can count in my Y, and I've never had any second thoughts. My worst fear is a flat tire on trips
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Feb 17, 2025 at 06:41 PM.
