General EV Conversation
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EV'S aren't the only heavy vehicles on the roads, and they don't destroy roads any more than any other car. Our roads here are destroyed by big trucks (18 wheelers). They are making completely false claims not based on any studies, but because their campaigns are funded by the oil industry
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Right, the reason I bought the first Plaid is because the lease deals weren't great and you weren't allowed to buy out the lease and I always like that option. Also, at the time the interest rate on a loan was 1.74% so I bought it. Dumb me didn't think about the potential for a huge drop in price since I have never experienced that before which hyper-depreciated my car. You know what they say, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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Wonder would it be if gas let’s say $2.50. I told my friend to compare it to a RAV4 hybrid. My insurance premium on the RAV4 limited hybrid is $525/6months
I think I was watching a recent TFL video after they took delivery of their 4Runner they were trying to make it Nevada to avoid paying California gas prices. 😆
I think I was watching a recent TFL video after they took delivery of their 4Runner they were trying to make it Nevada to avoid paying California gas prices. 😆
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For the money, there just isn't anything that matches the Plaid. And like you mentioned, people are telling me the same thing you're wife said to you, and I just tell them if the product is good, it's just noise that will eventually pass. But yes, you should definitely look at other offerings on the market so you know you've made the best decision. But do it quickly, because there is a bill being proposed by 14 Senators that will not only revoke the tax credits, but will impose additional taxes on EV'S because "they destroy roads" 
. If this goes through, it will kill EV's from all the legacy automakers, probably only Tesla will survive
. If this goes through, it will kill EV's from all the legacy automakers, probably only Tesla will surviveAs for the tax credit, I assumed it would be going away with the current administration and that is one reason why the leases on Plaids are pretty good since you get the $7,500 credit passed down to you. Hopefully the sale goes through so I can order right away and also cancel the hold I have on my new wheels that I ordered.
No consideration for the Model 3 Performance? It's crazy fast too. Not as fast as the Plaid of course, but the Plaid is so powerful that it's almost unusable unless you are willing to risk going to jail in about 3 seconds. I think I could be happy with the new Model 3 performance, especially for the price. The only reason I didn't consider it before is because I was able to get a used Plaid for almost the same price.
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Wonder would it be if gas let’s say $2.50. I told my friend to compare it to a RAV4 hybrid. My insurance premium on the RAV4 limited hybrid is $525/6months
I think I was watching a recent TFL video after they took delivery of their 4Runner they were trying to make it Nevada to avoid paying California gas prices. 😆
I think I was watching a recent TFL video after they took delivery of their 4Runner they were trying to make it Nevada to avoid paying California gas prices. 😆
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Feb 15, 2025 at 11:29 AM.
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It would be the right economic thing to do but I like a new car every three years and to be honest, my car payments are immaterial to my income. However, if I can't sell my new car for a reasonable amount I will keep it for another year and figure out what I want to get next year.
Well Elon directly affects my wife because her job is on the line vs. other people that just don't like him. Every day we have no idea if she is going to lose her job.
As for the tax credit, I assumed it would be going away with the current administration and that is one reason why the leases on Plaids are pretty good since you get the $7,500 credit passed down to you. Hopefully the sale goes through so I can order right away and also cancel the hold I have on my new wheels that I ordered.
I don't mind the M3P but I like the extra power of the Plaid and the hatchback. It works better for me in many respects because of the hatch and I also like the looks way better. As far as the power, I feel like I use it all of the time.
Well Elon directly affects my wife because her job is on the line vs. other people that just don't like him. Every day we have no idea if she is going to lose her job.
As for the tax credit, I assumed it would be going away with the current administration and that is one reason why the leases on Plaids are pretty good since you get the $7,500 credit passed down to you. Hopefully the sale goes through so I can order right away and also cancel the hold I have on my new wheels that I ordered.
I don't mind the M3P but I like the extra power of the Plaid and the hatchback. It works better for me in many respects because of the hatch and I also like the looks way better. As far as the power, I feel like I use it all of the time.
