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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘The weight of an EV is significantly heavier than the weight of a comparable gas model
My friends M4 weighs more than my Model 3, so that's BS
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Truck pay the road tax.
Pickups pay road taxes? Not in the US
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘The weight of an EV is significantly heavier than the weight of a comparable gas model
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They claim because EV'S are heavy. But trucks aren't . I'll post the article later
The Dodge Charge Daytona EV is almost 6k lbs which is insane. Someone mentioned it’s the same weight as TWO of their 1986 M3s.
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
My friends M4 weighs more than my Model 3, so that's BS
Doesn’t that gas M4 pay more in taxes based on gasoline fuel use?
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The Dodge Charge Daytona EV is almost 6k lbs which is insane. Someone mentioned it’s the same weight as TWO of their 1986 M3s.
EV'S aren't the only heavy vehicles on the roads, and they don't destroy roads any more than any other car. Our roads here are destroyed by big trucks (18 wheelers). They are making completely false claims not based on any studies, but because their campaigns are funded by the oil industry
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:31 AM
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Right, the reason I bought the first Plaid is because the lease deals weren't great and you weren't allowed to buy out the lease and I always like that option. Also, at the time the interest rate on a loan was 1.74% so I bought it. Dumb me didn't think about the potential for a huge drop in price since I have never experienced that before which hyper-depreciated my car. You know what they say, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
No consideration for the Model 3 Performance? It's crazy fast too. Not as fast as the Plaid of course, but the Plaid is so powerful that it's almost unusable unless you are willing to risk going to jail in about 3 seconds. I think I could be happy with the new Model 3 performance, especially for the price. The only reason I didn't consider it before is because I was able to get a used Plaid for almost the same price.
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Doesn’t that gas M4 pay more in taxes based on gasoline fuel use?
They do only if they fill up more, but I also pay more taxes than him when I register my car
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 10:35 AM
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They do only if they fill up more
well that makes sense. if you fill up more you’d pay less taxes,

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, but I also pay more taxes than him when I register my car
What is the difference in the taxes when you register the car? One time or every year?
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
What is the difference in the taxes when you register the car? One time or every year?
Every year to make up for lost fuel taxes
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Every year to make up for lost fuel taxes
so does that put you in parity with a gas car?
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
so does that put you in parity with a gas car?
I’m about to text my friend how much is he really saving with his EVs if he factors in everything including insurance, tax, etc
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
so does that put you in parity with a gas car?
That's not for me to determine. The state and the federal government taxes me based on lost revenue from me not filling up. So I would assume the answer is yes
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I’m about to text my friend how much is he really saving with his EVs if he factors in everything including insurance, tax, etc
I can tell you. I save about $1500 a year, that includes insurance
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I can tell you. I save about $1500 a year, that includes insurance
Wonder would it be if gas let’s say $2.50. I told my friend to compare it to a RAV4 hybrid. My insurance premium on the RAV4 limited hybrid is $525/6months

I think I was watching a recent TFL video after they took delivery of their 4Runner they were trying to make it Nevada to avoid paying California gas prices. 😆
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Wouldn’t just keeping your Tesla plaid be the right thing to do? From a low cost financial perspective
It would be the right economic thing to do but I like a new car every three years and to be honest, my car payments are immaterial to my income. However, if I can't sell my new car for a reasonable amount I will keep it for another year and figure out what I want to get next year.

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For the money, there just isn't anything that matches the Plaid. And like you mentioned, people are telling me the same thing you're wife said to you, and I just tell them if the product is good, it's just noise that will eventually pass. But yes, you should definitely look at other offerings on the market so you know you've made the best decision. But do it quickly, because there is a bill being proposed by 14 Senators that will not only revoke the tax credits, but will impose additional taxes on EV'S because "they destroy roads" . If this goes through, it will kill EV's from all the legacy automakers, probably only Tesla will survive
Well Elon directly affects my wife because her job is on the line vs. other people that just don't like him. Every day we have no idea if she is going to lose her job.

As for the tax credit, I assumed it would be going away with the current administration and that is one reason why the leases on Plaids are pretty good since you get the $7,500 credit passed down to you. Hopefully the sale goes through so I can order right away and also cancel the hold I have on my new wheels that I ordered.

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No consideration for the Model 3 Performance? It's crazy fast too. Not as fast as the Plaid of course, but the Plaid is so powerful that it's almost unusable unless you are willing to risk going to jail in about 3 seconds. I think I could be happy with the new Model 3 performance, especially for the price. The only reason I didn't consider it before is because I was able to get a used Plaid for almost the same price.
I don't mind the M3P but I like the extra power of the Plaid and the hatchback. It works better for me in many respects because of the hatch and I also like the looks way better. As far as the power, I feel like I use it all of the time.
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