How Bad Is Tesla's Full Self Driving Feature, Actually? Third-Party Testing Paints Dark Picture

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesl...testing-video/

 

And which auto makers even achieved close to FSD has without $100k worth of sensors covering the whole car? I'm waiting....

Waymo has been working on self driving forever, and I don't know if you've ever seen one of their vehicles, but I wouldn't want one of those monstrosities in my driveway

 

well you live in the frozen tundra. just kidding.

wow, i wasn't aware that regen isn't as effective if the battery is cold. maybe more an issue there - at what outside temp (and below) do you precondition?

well it is called 'ev chat' for a reason. meaning - most of us here are not interested in talking about, or comparing with ice vehicles or even hybrids.

well she does drive a minivan and isn't much of an enthusiast and obviously VERY tolerant.

well it's not for personal ownership, it's a taxi.

 

Anything below 50F/10C and brake regen is impacted. Reason why regen is ineffective is actually very simple - the battery is just too cold to be "charged" at anything other than a very slow rate - hence the drop in regen. It's to protect the battery till it's warm enough.

 

Weren’t we asked to move on from this? Drop it.

 

Found a solution to my shifter issue in a Tesla!

 

At -38°C there is zero regen and at that temperature the hydraulic brakes are super stiff at first.

 

As a Vegas resident, -38 degrees is my definition of hell on Earth.

 

finally watched this... two bored reviewers thrash a road car around a track and find it's not good enough to be flogged around a track. they don't really like any aspect of the car. they're entitled to their opinions.

however, as steve has said, the model 3 performance is not a 911. it's a faster model 3 with an adaptive suspension. having a 'track mode' though the brakes shouldn't overheat so easily and the suspension shouldn't bottom out. the car is a track 'wannabe'.



i don't believe i said silent cars are objectively superior, lol, it's just my personal preference as you stated. if noisier cars are more appealing i'm sure many are going to love the waves of 3 and 4 cylinder 'screamers' that appear to be coming.

i don't think you're a luddite. i think the ioniq 5 N is a pretty amazing compromise since it can make somewhat realistic engine sounds with fake gear shifts even, lol. i would never use the noise features, but it's fun that they did it.

 

Uh yeah.

I watch cold start videos from Russia and Canada all the time where it's cold like that..

 

I don’t like hot weather. Constant heat with the air conditioning running is something I don’t like. A hot day but a cool/cold night is great

 

This is just trolling. You know the difference.

 

I stopped reading the article after it said FSD is being sold for 5 figures on the EV lineup. It's actually 8K option.

 

It’s amazing to me how people can’t just double check their facts in 40 seconds before they publish stuff.

 

Lol well, you live in Canada.

My spouse is from near Canada and when we first met I noticed like half of the houses up there don't have central HVAC. You won't find a place in Knoxville with no air conditioning when it's hot.

I love the snow and winter things, but it would get old fast. Like it does my spouse and family, everyone up there hates winter etc etc.

About the EV "preconditioning" talk, here's how I see it. In a house it doesn't matter, the garage stays warm enough or cool enough on hot or cold days. Half of the time I leave the windows and/or top down in there. It's fine. No need to even fuss, by the time you're out of the driveway the CC has it perfect in there.

However, my BIL and spouse have a detached 2 car garage (it's nice and everything) where it DOES get freezing cold. So if they had EVs they'd definitely use that feature. If your garage is attached to your house you don't need it.