This post is a little something different. I want to pose a question to current and prospective EV owners, non EV owners are also welcome to chime in.

Today's EVs, and even most performance oriented EVs are designed with efficiency in mind. Max aerodynamics, utilizing space gains from the lack of engines and transmissions, better designed battery packs to maximize range. This mainly leads in many cases to rounder, handleless, futuristic looking vehicles. It also leads to criticisms that non mainstream looking vehicles don't have appeal to the general public.

So, should EV makers continue on the path of optimizing aerodynamics, packaging and efficiency so they can utilize smaller battery packs to get more range, or should they take the shared ICE/EV approach and just throw in a bigger battery? Not worry about having an actual usable frunk and flat floors until they get the general public comfortable with EVs? Or maybe just not worry about range and efficiency for some models?

I would love to hear people's take

 

Same here, FSD is better than me using Waze or Teslas navigation. Some of the highways around DC are very confusing with multiple exits and I have a hard time following the nav sometimes and take the wrong exit. FSD know la exactly what lane to be in and what exit to take.

I had FSD in standard mode coming home from my trip yesterday and it was pretty good but what drove me crazy is that on the DC beltway when I was in the second to the far left lane it would pass the car in front of me by moving to the right lane to pass instead of the left lane even when no one was in the left lane. It kept doing it and it drove me crazy.

I would say an in between hurry and standard would be good.

 

I personally want a more stylish car than an egg shaped car. It also doesn’t have to have some weird futuristic dash inside either, like they are trying to hard to be cutting edge just because it’s an EV.

To me just make a normal good looking car. Kia/Hyundai can do it so others should too. I think the new Teslas look good too. BMW isn’t bad and all they need to do is design a newer front end.

 

I don't think that's correct... His car is a Hardware 3 car and I don't know what version of FSD he has but it's the latest he can get on his car , so even if it's v12, he definitely has Standard mode on his and and a more aggressive setting (no idea what's it's called)

 

My thoughts exactly!👍

 

Hyundai EVs arent normal looking in my eyes. They are purposely made to stand out.

You don't necessarily need round egg shape for aerodynamics, no matter what Mercedes says abut their EQ series. It's possible, like the Model S. But for some reason, automakers think consumers want to stand out, just like the Prius model.

 

I'm guessing than that this is a Model S specific setting. My model 3 with HW v4 and the latest FSD has chill and Hurry modes

 

@Hameed :

 

Here's my take: I want my EV's to be distinguishable from ICE. I want it to be optimized for performance and range. I want flat floors and usable frunks. And although I'm not a big iPhone fan, I want a clean, easy to use and button less as possible cabin. I've driven a few platforms that share with their ICE counterparts (my Polestar being an example) and there are just way too many compromises. My friends i4 is really nice to drive, but feels compromised by it's weight which is very apparent going into turns and under heavy braking. Outside of Tesla, Hyundai does it the best with a mixture of simple controls and an easy to use interface on their screens. Ford also does a really good job with the Lightning, which is an amazing truck and I'm sad it hasn't done better with truck owners that don't do heavy towing.

Anyway, this is all just my preferences, the market will ultimately decide

 

No, his car is a Model 3 RWD (2019)

 

That explains it, he's probably on HW v2 or v2.5. My coworker has a 2020 Model Y and he has only FSD v12, which is different from v13 which I have on my Model 3. My Model Y (which has HW v3 and no FSD) doesn't even get the 30 day trials anymore

 

I'm in agreement here. I drive our EV 30-80 miles/day so I don't care about maximizing range. I'd prefer the shape of the car, wheels, etc. to just be a great looking vehicle overall. For example, I really like the Sierra EV pickup truck... because it looks almost identical to the ICE Sierra.

 

That's built on a 100 percent EV platform. I should have mentioned that I'm excluding trucks from this discussion, but now the cats out of the bag

 

I think MB EVs grew on me. I used to question why some would pay that much for them especially the sedans. Same with iX and sedans too. The i7/7 don't look as tall/thick anymore. I was behind a black one and I thought it looked great. The front, yes, can have some improvement.
I feel the same with with RXSF about Korean EVs. Except the Genesis, I think they overtried the designs to be different. It's subjective and apparently some do like. Heck... I've seen many more CT these days.

 

One of the best things about my Lightning is it is identical to the ICE vehicle in almost all non-powertrain respects which means any of the thousands of non-powertrain accessories are 100% compatible and why we have the absolutely massive frunk space.