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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 12:36 PM
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Doesn't strike me as too expensive...
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Looks really nice...until you see the price. Yikes

Venza + Minivan + All Electric = Lucid Gravity
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
Venza + Minivan + All Electric = Lucid Gravity
Except the Gravity looks 1000 times better than a Venza...IMHO of course
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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Works out to $130,000 net loss per vehicle I think that's an improvement?
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Works out to $130,000 net loss per vehicle I think that's an improvement?
that's pretty horrendous. lol
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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that's pretty horrendous. lol
Starting a brand-new car company and designing new platforms from the ground up is eye-wateringly expensive. When those massive costs are spread across a modest number of units, you wind up with huge losses per unit. The key will be if Lucid can turn the corner and increase their volume. Adding a CUV to the lineup is unlikely to hurt them in that regard.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Starting a brand-new car company and designing new platforms from the ground up is eye-wateringly expensive. When those massive costs are spread across a modest number of units, you wind up with huge losses per unit. The key will be if Lucid can turn the corner and increase their volume. Adding a CUV to the lineup is unlikely to hurt them in that regard.
to use your term, the 'gravity' is eye-wateringly expensive though, so unlikely to help lucid a whole lot.

they will need something that can sell in volume.
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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
to use your term, the 'gravity' is eye-wateringly expensive though, so unlikely to help lucid a whole lot.

they will need something that can sell in volume.
I don't feel like $80k (before incentives) for a Luxury 3-row SUV is crazy expensive in today's market. It is in fact, a tiny bit cheaper than the Model X, which is not exactly in the luxury segment.
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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 08:29 AM
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Add in some almost-necessary options, though, and it rises in price very quickly. A lot of the good stuff is optional on these. I specced one yesterday, and had no trouble at all hitting over 120K. That's not necessarily a bad price in itself, and these are great vehicles, but you have to be confident that Lucid will be around to support and update it. It took much cheaper and more mainstream models to really propel Tesla into the stratosphere and Lucid seems some way off from that.
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Originally Posted by geko29
I don't feel like $80k (before incentives) for a Luxury 3-row SUV is crazy expensive in today's market. It is in fact, a tiny bit cheaper than the Model X, which is not exactly in the luxury segment.
It isn't, at all...
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Originally Posted by geko29
I don't feel like $80k (before incentives) for a Luxury 3-row SUV is crazy expensive in today's market. It is in fact, a tiny bit cheaper than the Model X, which is not exactly in the luxury segment.
Yesterday at the Tesla factory I saw a Model X 6 seater, it was an inventory car, list price was $88,130 (cash, OTD), this is before the $7500 credit with another $4k off list price, plus $500 off loyalty credits. It was being sold as new, I think odometer was less then 30 miles on it. I also saw a Plaid Demo that was heavily discounted.

Although you may not think $94K or whatever the Lucid Grand Touring is selling for is a lot, I would rather take my chances spending that type of money with a Model X, I have service centers everywhere around me, and I know 100 percent Tesla is going to be around in the next 10 years

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Yesterday at the Tesla factory I saw a Model X 6 seater, it was an inventory car, list price was $88,130 (cash, OTD), this is before the $7500 credit
The only X that qualifies for the non business tax credit, is the base in Stealth Grey. Discounts don't change that.
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Originally Posted by Mike728
The only X that qualifies for the non business tax credit, is the base in Stealth Grey. Discounts don't change that.
I didn't know that, but $4,500 off is still not bad, and doesn't change what I posted previously. Another unfortunate thing is Tesla doesn't offer (at least right now) the lower APR on X financing, it's currently 5.59 percent
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You just lease it, then you’re protected. Zero interest in a Model X so I wouldn’t even consider one over this Lucid.
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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You just lease it, then you’re protected. Zero interest in a Model X so I wouldn’t even consider one over this Lucid.
How are you protected if you are on 3 year lease, and on year two MBS decides to pull funding? And then a motor, battery or other electronic component goes out and you have no repair shop to take it to? If you think it's such a safe product, why don't you lease one? As much as I like the company, want them to succeed, I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole. I learned my lesson with Polestar
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