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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Oh come off it, I’m not closed minded.
Come on lol

The V8 is actually faster.
The i7 feels way faster because of the EV torque. If you would drive some EVs I think you would really like them.
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
If you love the i7 I personally would get one ignoring the charging infrastructure because you will be driving locally most of the time. For longer trips I would just take the minvan or worst case scenario, rent a car until the i7 can use the supercharger network. The nicer daily drive would be enough for me to get one but then again, it's not like an S class is not an incredible driving machine either.
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I'm going to take my California hat off, turn my focus away from Tesla superchargers, and use crappy EA chargers as my point of reference, and agree 100 percent with @patgilm . When I only had the Polestar and had to deal with crappy charging, I had no regrets getting the Polestar. Just the way they drive and feel is enough. But I'm just speaking for myself, everyone has to determine for themselves if buying or leasing an EV will work.

All of you guys who live in areas with lack of or crappy charging infrastructure are proof that EV's are worth owning, IMHO of course

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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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The drive of it is certainly compelling...
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
I've had 2 close calls in the Rivian taking them down to ~4-5% and the nearest EA station required a 20 minute detour and the station had a rating of like 4.2/10. I do toss everything in the nav though so I have a decent idea of how far I can go.
So you're saying you used the SOC to determine that you most likely need to charge. Thank you.
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 02:14 PM
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Some not so good news for Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ev-...l#post11666281
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I have BC Forged 20" on my car, shouldn't be any different than the 21" factory wheels that say 348 mile range with summer tires and I have all seasons but of course maybe the factory 21" wheels are more aerodynamic but then again, my 20" wheels are so much lighter at 21 lbs each.

As for range anxiety, wasn't out of town, I was driving back and forth between something my daughter and son had that was 35 miles each way. On my last trip home I did put in my home address in nav and it kept telling me to go to one of the superchargers on my way home and trying to re-route me but when looking at the range I had and how far I had to go to get home it said I would have 1% charge left when I got home which was accurate. Still doesn't make me feel comfortable because when you look at how many miles are left in the charge, it's not remotely close and you would think the algorithm would make it closer to what it actually would get. But why wouldn't I have range anxiety? There was one supercharger that was out of the way from my route home, nothing else so if I didn't make it, what would I do?
yeah, i dont know what you would get with 19" plastic ones i have but i cant tell you I lost so much freaking range with deep concave 21" forged wheels. It is not even funny, my wh/km went from being same or slightly less than my Model 3 Performance to being 40% worse. If you were telling me that before, I wouldnt have believed you.

Algorithm works fine if you use the nav and it knows where are you going... otherwise the number on the top is some best case city scenario that is stupid and you should never look at, it has nothing to do with your current drive.

As to the range anxiety, if you reliably know it is 1% you can take action. If you dont know whats going on, then it sux.
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The drive of it is certainly compelling...
The drive is compelling but even though the looks of it are polarizing, the one thing it does have is presence which to me can also be compelling. I think it stands out a bit more than the S class which depending on what you like could be a good or bad thing. I like to be different so I think it is a good thing personally (another reason I like the cyber truck).
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
The drive is compelling but even though the looks of it are polarizing, the one thing it does have is presence which to me can also be compelling. I think it stands out a bit more than the S class which depending on what you like could be a good or bad thing. I like to be different so I think it is a good thing personally (another reason I like the cyber truck).
I don’t disagree with any of that at all.
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Originally Posted by bowser
So you're saying you used the SOC to determine that you most likely need to charge. Thank you.
One annoyance on the R1S is that I switched to %, but in the nav it only shows expected range on arrival. I've always used % and my wife only uses range. Different strokes for different folks
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don’t disagree with any of that at all.
Yesterday I had to stop at the dealership to pick up something and saw this i7 plugged in along their row of chargers. I'm not sure about the wheels but overall, it looked pretty good.
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Yeah those wheels are way too small for the car
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Yesterday I had to stop at the dealership to pick up something and saw this i7 plugged in along their row of chargers. I'm not sure about the wheels but overall, it looked pretty good.
not only are those wheels tiny, but the wheel arches look tiny, dwarfed by the massive front end. this car is no looker, imo.
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
not only are those wheels tiny, but the wheel arches look tiny, dwarfed by the massive front end. this car is no looker, imo.
We’ve heard
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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Whatever works for you. I do look at range, but it's not very useful, IMO. Range is something that changes depending on many factors. I could have 100 miles left of range at 70 mph, but if I go to 71 mph that changes. Or if it suddenly gets windy, or warmer. Anyway, if that's what works for you, than use it
So I have a dumb question. I see a lot of you look at SOC vs range. How many miles is 1% SOC? I too would think prefer look at range vs SOC.

Another question, having spent time in rented Tesla couple times, does anyone travel without using the navigation/trip planner, the thing that tells you will have X% of battery once you reach your destination. Patgilm for example was making multiple runs in town, is it necessary to set the trip planner every time you drive to ensure you’re going to reach wherever you’re going?

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How many miles is he driving on his errands?

Literally the only time I would think about range is on a trip.
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