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Lead Lap
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I usually don’t bother calculating because worst case I usually arrive home with at least 50 miles to spare so never crossed my mind.
Daily my wife and I always take the Tesla because it’s easy to drive. I go to the gym in the morning, then drop off my son at school (no bus service), then my wife picks my son up from school, then takes him to high school hockey practice, sometimes I pick him up from practice, then I take him to club hockey practice and back home, and then sometimes pick my daughter up at dance. That doesn’t include the errands my wife runs during the day to her gym or the store. With all that running around I still end up having about 70-80 miles of range left so I never think twice about range but every day can be different.
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So I have a dumb question. I see a lot of you look at SOC vs range. How many miles is 1% SOC? I too would think prefer look at range vs SOC.
Another question, having spent time in rented Tesla couple times, does anyone travel without using the navigation/trip planner, the thing that tells you will have X% of battery once you reach your destination. Patgilm for example was making multiple runs in town, is it necessary to set the trip planner every time you drive to ensure you’re going to reach wherever you’re going?
Another question, having spent time in rented Tesla couple times, does anyone travel without using the navigation/trip planner, the thing that tells you will have X% of battery once you reach your destination. Patgilm for example was making multiple runs in town, is it necessary to set the trip planner every time you drive to ensure you’re going to reach wherever you’re going?
I only use the travel planner when actually traveling so it maps out the optimal chargers on my route and preconditions the battery. I've generally learned the limits of my car's range, and don't even think about it
Lead Lap
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I really don't know, I view it the same way as I would a gas gauge. I usually don't let my battery get less than 20 percent. Driving in town, I know what my limits are.
I only use the travel planner when actually traveling so it maps out the optimal chargers on my route and preconditions the battery. I've generally learned the limits of my car's range, and don't even think about it
I only use the travel planner when actually traveling so it maps out the optimal chargers on my route and preconditions the battery. I've generally learned the limits of my car's range, and don't even think about it
For the Tesla, there is zero way to charge up with my schedule sometimes and no superchargers close most of the time. When I’m trying to make different events time isn’t on your side and superchargers are out of the way.
Regardless, on a daily basis, it’s really not a big deal. I just hit a perfect storm one day. I don’t want to plan every trip when I’m running around to different places on a daily basis but would on a longer trip for sure.
so my car = 77.4 * 3 / 100 or 2.3
the '3' (mi/kwh) varies of course, and thus does the 2.3
at 4mi/kwh (which i've never averaged on a trip), 1% would be 3
at 2.5mi/kwh (which i sometimes see on a short aggressive trip) 1% would be 1,9
that concludes todays math lesson.
Another question, having spent time in rented Tesla couple times, does anyone travel without using the navigation/trip planner, the thing that tells you will have X% of battery once you reach your destination.
Patgilm for example was making multiple runs in town, is it necessary to set the trip planner every time you drive to ensure you’re going to reach wherever you’re going?
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For my X7 I do look look at miles left because it is much more accurate and I usually fill up when it’s around 100 miles left or a quarter tank and it’s just easier because it takes 5 minutes to fill up.
For the Tesla, there is zero way to charge up with my schedule sometimes and no superchargers close most of the time. When I’m trying to make different events time isn’t on your side and superchargers are out of the way.
Regardless, on a daily basis, it’s really not a big deal. I just hit a perfect storm one day. I don’t want to plan every trip when I’m running around to different places on a daily basis but would on a longer trip for sure.
For the Tesla, there is zero way to charge up with my schedule sometimes and no superchargers close most of the time. When I’m trying to make different events time isn’t on your side and superchargers are out of the way.
Regardless, on a daily basis, it’s really not a big deal. I just hit a perfect storm one day. I don’t want to plan every trip when I’m running around to different places on a daily basis but would on a longer trip for sure.
As far as range is concerned, I pretty much have a "feel" of what my limits are. With 20 percent, I can generally travel almost 50 miles from home if an emergency should arise, and grab a quick 10 min charge to get back home.
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So basically it's the same as a gas car when you get the "feel" of how much juice/gas is left. I know my low fuel lights like the back of my hands, you can run them wayyy down. I guess I'm saying by the time the light comes on I don't need it because I "know the car" after how many hundreds of tanks of gas. Is that what you're saying? That's cool if so. I'm the type of guy that would get range anxiety below 50%, unfortunately.
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From: Maryland
So basically it's the same as a gas car when you get the "feel" of how much juice/gas is left. I know my low fuel lights like the back of my hands, you can run them wayyy down. I guess I'm saying by the time the light comes on I don't need it because I "know the car" after how many hundreds of tanks of gas. Is that what you're saying? That's cool if so. I'm the type of guy that would get range anxiety below 50%, unfortunately.
So basically for her EV or ICE she never has range anxiety.
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So basically it's the same as a gas car when you get the "feel" of how much juice/gas is left. I know my low fuel lights like the back of my hands, you can run them wayyy down. I guess I'm saying by the time the light comes on I don't need it because I "know the car" after how many hundreds of tanks of gas. Is that what you're saying? That's cool if so. I'm the type of guy that would get range anxiety below 50%, unfortunately.
Yeah, I just "know"
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Our X7 is what my wife drives when I have the Tesla and other than long trips I don’t need to know how much gas is left because either I get in the car and I see that my wife left me with less than a quarter tank or she tells me that it needs gas and she will take the Tesla when we both have to drive to separate places so she doesn’t have to fill up. I think she has filled up once since we’ve had it because I was out of town.
So basically for her EV or ICE she never has range anxiety.
So basically for her EV or ICE she never has range anxiety.
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On another note I think I may consider getting another Plaid late spring and getting rid of my current one. If the rumored changes of ambient lighting and front camera are true, I may take the hit and buy another one but maybe in black. I love my white one but I can’t get the same color as the one I had otherwise I would just keep it.
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Going back and forth to dance competitions and hockey games. That is my typical weekend. This one just happened 35 miles each way. Next day was a drive out to Haymarket, VA with some stops in between. Not really errands but life with teenagers who can’t drive. Thats why I didn’t think much about range. I put in Waze how far it was each way and it was 35 miles. Add to and from the ice rink was max 10 miles each way plus heading out to grab a bite. Max 180 miles, didn’t think that would kill my battery at 80%.
I usually don’t bother calculating because worst case I usually arrive home with at least 50 miles to spare so never crossed my mind.
Daily my wife and I always take the Tesla because it’s easy to drive. I go to the gym in the morning, then drop off my son at school (no bus service), then my wife picks my son up from school, then takes him to high school hockey practice, sometimes I pick him up from practice, then I take him to club hockey practice and back home, and then sometimes pick my daughter up at dance. That doesn’t include the errands my wife runs during the day to her gym or the store. With all that running around I still end up having about 70-80 miles of range left so I never think twice about range but every day can be different.
I usually don’t bother calculating because worst case I usually arrive home with at least 50 miles to spare so never crossed my mind.
Daily my wife and I always take the Tesla because it’s easy to drive. I go to the gym in the morning, then drop off my son at school (no bus service), then my wife picks my son up from school, then takes him to high school hockey practice, sometimes I pick him up from practice, then I take him to club hockey practice and back home, and then sometimes pick my daughter up at dance. That doesn’t include the errands my wife runs during the day to her gym or the store. With all that running around I still end up having about 70-80 miles of range left so I never think twice about range but every day can be different.
Yeah, I got it. I guess my situation makes me lucky. I'm in a place where I can drive my Model Y like I do a regular car. The only minor issue we sometimes have is sharing one charger with four cars, so we all have to regulate our charging.
As far as range is concerned, I pretty much have a "feel" of what my limits are. With 20 percent, I can generally travel almost 50 miles from home if an emergency should arise, and grab a quick 10 min charge to get back home.
As far as range is concerned, I pretty much have a "feel" of what my limits are. With 20 percent, I can generally travel almost 50 miles from home if an emergency should arise, and grab a quick 10 min charge to get back home.
So basically it's the same as a gas car when you get the "feel" of how much juice/gas is left. I know my low fuel lights like the back of my hands, you can run them wayyy down. I guess I'm saying by the time the light comes on I don't need it because I "know the car" after how many hundreds of tanks of gas. Is that what you're saying? That's cool if so. I'm the type of guy that would get range anxiety below 50%, unfortunately.
Has anyone driven down to the -negative %? I’ve seen videos on YouTube of it being done. I would be that guy. 🫣
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I just saw one, I'll try to find the link. A guy in a CT made it to a supercharger on -5%. He barely crawled in there but he did make it.