Toyota is still great lol. Still leads in reliability and initial quality and resale value. This Rav 4 is a very smart purchase for somebody who wants that kind of vehicle. Toyota makes great cars, they just aren't the kinds of cars that appeal to me personally. If you are looking for a reliable, attractive CUV that will hold its value, the Rav 4 is an excellent, excellent choice. A small GM SUV like yours for example will be worth dramatically less 5...10 years down the road than a Rav 4. Basically someobody will always pay $5k for a well maintained old Rav 4 no matter how old it is.

75K mile 15 year old Rav 4 $15k

https://www.polywood.com/products/na...45792917979363

A 15 year old GM SUV will be worth less than half that.

 

The RAV4 has always had a good well engineered and reliable drivetrain...... I've said that many times, and never implied anything otherwise. My point was that from what I have seen, there are vehicles that the RAV4 directly competes with that in my opinion are nicer inside and out and drive better.

One cannot also directly compare the RAV4 to the Encore GX that I drive....the GX is one size smaller than the RAV4 (a subcompact), and comes from a more upscale Buick nameplate. I agree that RAV4s depreciate slowly..... but that is more of a factor of supply and demand than anything else. People want them, new or used, even though in my opinion, they are not necessarily the most desirable vehicles in that class.

 

FYI your link is for an Adirondack chair.

My mother in law just bought a 2011 RAV4 V6 with 175k on it for $7k. So a 14 year old vehicle with 175k miles on it still commands what, 20% of the original price? They hold their value like crazy.

 

The Buick Encore is more a Corolla Cross competitor

 

But what you miss is most people don't care about having the best driving, nicest interior they can get. They care more about reliability, quality, resale value and MPG. If those are your main concerns, the Rav 4 is the vehicle to get in that segment without question.

Of course its supply and demand. Demand is high because of the vehicle's reputation for reliability and quality, and supply is low because people have no need to replace them for the same reason. GM vehicles have poor resale because demand is low because nobody trusts them, and supply is high because they don't age anywhere near as well.

Haha thats hilarious. Well, you know what I am shopping for!

Yeah thats exactly my point.

 

and the RAV4 Hybrid is made in America, with American labor.

 

Yep, icing on the cake.

 

….and that icing comes from the state of Kentucky.

 

Yup, good ol' American cake!

 

Funny story so prior to buying our Ravs I actually wanted a V6 4WD Rav as I thought they were pretty cool. I actually came close on pulling the trigger on one of them like really close. I was getting ready to go pick it up after negotiating the price but for some reason I looked at it again not sure how I missed it but it wasn’t 4WD which was a deal breaker. I think I was going to pay around $12k.

Than a month later end up with 2 brand new ones instead.🫠

 

Oh and the best part? That adirondack chair will fit in the Rav no problem!

 

Motor1.com brought this up, but @Striker223 I think Toyota might have heard you.

V8 Rav4 video

https://www.motor1.com/news/760492/t...ne-rav4-video/

Pardon the last gen highlander cameo

 

‘Toyota is doing to the crossover segment what Toyota did to the small car and midsize sedan in the 80/90s and 00s. They are making far better products compared to GM and Ford. And it’s all hybrid. no other manufacture comes close. And the best part is the RAV4 is made in the United States The Chevrolet equinox and the Ford escape and bronco sport are made in Mexico. The Buick envision is imported from China. There are tariffs on the Chevy and the Ford that makes them even more uncompetitive, whereas the Toyota RAV4 is tariff free

15 years ago, the Ford escape sold 300,000 units in the United States. The RAV4 sold 150,000. Now today Toyota sells almost 500,000 RAV4’s where the escape rarely sells 125,000 cars

 

FYI my parents’ RAV4 hybrid was built in Japan.

 

So what's your point? I never said RAV4's didn't sell...in fact, if you bother to read what I post, I said the opposite. My point is that, IMO, there are nicer vehicles IN THAT CLASS to both sit in and drive. Personally, I have generally found the design and materials of (particularly) the last two generations of the RAV-4 to be especially-disappointing....although I like the fact that make a good hybrid version.