Yup, agreed

 

All true. I can't even argue that too much since I have a Jetta and Jeep in active use myself, but I don't LIKE them so much as a the manual trans in the Jetta makes me not go insane...

 

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Certainly not a W12.

 

If price was removed from the equation everyone
would pick 12 cyl cars lol

 

Is price removed from all considerations? Maintenance, repair, fuel and initial purchase price?

 

Correct, aka what people actually want. It's gonna be a swarm of the price no object cars of various classes depending on what people like but the common factor is going to be V8s and up

 

Such an argument doesn't really make any sense because of course people would take the better thing if it were free, but it isn't free.

I don't agree that everyone would make that choice though. Many people care about fuel consumption and environmental impact as an example.

 

Well, buying one (if the purchase-price was removed) is one thing, but keeping 12 cylinders fed at the pumps is another matter. Then there is the cost of insuring a six-figure vehicle. And a lot of people, like me, need something small and manuverable.

 

Thats why I clarified that he meant no cost at all, including cost to maintain, fuel, insure etc.

 

there are no w12 cars in production anymore and when price is not an object, why pick an old used up w12 when one can go for an new Rolls Royce Spectre that is a smoother drive than comparable ICE on offer eg the Bentley V8 hybrids.

 

why on earth is there a discussion here about w12 engines in a thread about the new rav4?

 

at xx.xxx price, it does matter.
Rav4 was gruff, and both regular hybrid and prime had very front bias. I hope that improved.

Sure people lived with it, but there is always hope. Especially for plugin that has so much more electric power these days.

 

Just to be clear, people don’t “live with the Rav 4” it’s the best selling vehicle in the country and people overwhelmingly choose it over other options in the segment.

 

i bet a ton of people buy rav4's without considering let alone trying ANY other vehicle, the brand rep is that strong. great for toyota, lousy for blinkered consumers.