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Heck, even equipment side of things I bet, especially here in Europe, that they get more equipment on average than 3/C.
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^^ at least there are texture and visual elements. I will say the updated 3 and Y are much better than prior, but if I had to choose, I would say the C class interior you posted is a step above the Tesla. The aluminum etched wood is always a nice touch.
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c-class vehicles don't have:
- ventilated seats standard
- screen for rear occupants
- self driving (supervised) option
- automatically open/close your garage
- massive amount of center storage
- frunk, under floor back storage (massive)
- a million other thoughtful smart features
since i bet most c-class vehicles are sold with mb-tex, then there's no difference there either.
the interior 'details' on the c-class vehicles consists of a lot of silver plastic 'bling' and all kinds of shape that don't mesh and that angled center screen is HORRIBLE.
the y does have stitching, cloth or CF type door insert panels and other details. even the DUAL wireless phone charger area is lined with a soft felt like material.
tons of Y interior pics here...
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...erior-gallery/
it's a serene very nice place to be, without 'flashy' busy 'details' for the sake of trying to impress.
i wanted the model X at first because it's even nicer inside, but in the end, i couldn't justify the cost for the differences. and didn't need a vehicle that big.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Nov 6, 2025 at 05:10 AM.
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If we’re ragging on the fact that most C Classes have MB TEX, NO Teslas have Napa leather or any leather. You just have to get the options you want. Lots of mainstream cars have more equipment than low package luxury cars, that’s nothing new.
Like AMIRIZA himself says, it’s a mainstream car.
And whats wrong with a 3 Series or C Class? I have had several C Classes as loaners and like them a lot. 3 Series I haven't spent much time with but they are good looking. Great chassis on both cars...
Last edited by SW17LS; Nov 6, 2025 at 06:19 AM.
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Who said there was anything wrong with them? First new car I ever bought was a Mercedes C Class. The point is that they are broadly in the same market segment as the 3 and Y. Cars like these and SUVs like the GLC aren’t in a class above the equivalent Tesla.
Last edited by swajames; Nov 6, 2025 at 06:35 AM.
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Its like your LR Defender. Is a Ford Bronco in the same segment? How do you "justify" the huge price premium of it over the Bronco?
Last edited by SW17LS; Nov 6, 2025 at 06:47 AM.
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minimalist huh?
c-class vehicles don't have:
- ventilated seats standard
- screen for rear occupants
- self driving (supervised) option
- automatically open/close your garage
- massive amount of center storage
- frunk, under floor back storage (massive)
- a million other thoughtful smart features
since i bet most c-class vehicles are sold with mb-tex, then there's no difference there either.
the interior 'details' on the c-class vehicles consists of a lot of silver plastic 'bling' and all kinds of shape that don't mesh and that angled center screen is HORRIBLE.
the y does have stitching, cloth or CF type door insert panels and other details. even the DUAL wireless phone charger area is lined with a soft felt like material.
tons of Y interior pics here...
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...erior-gallery/
it's a serene very nice place to be, without 'flashy' busy 'details' for the sake of trying to impress.
i wanted the model X at first because it's even nicer inside, but in the end, i couldn't justify the cost for the differences. and didn't need a vehicle that big.
c-class vehicles don't have:
- ventilated seats standard
- screen for rear occupants
- self driving (supervised) option
- automatically open/close your garage
- massive amount of center storage
- frunk, under floor back storage (massive)
- a million other thoughtful smart features
since i bet most c-class vehicles are sold with mb-tex, then there's no difference there either.
the interior 'details' on the c-class vehicles consists of a lot of silver plastic 'bling' and all kinds of shape that don't mesh and that angled center screen is HORRIBLE.
the y does have stitching, cloth or CF type door insert panels and other details. even the DUAL wireless phone charger area is lined with a soft felt like material.
tons of Y interior pics here...
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...erior-gallery/
it's a serene very nice place to be, without 'flashy' busy 'details' for the sake of trying to impress.
i wanted the model X at first because it's even nicer inside, but in the end, i couldn't justify the cost for the differences. and didn't need a vehicle that big.
I respect your decision, but it does not mean I too have to share it.
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Broadly in the same market segment I would agree with just from a size and layout perspective, but the Mercedes and BMW models are more luxurious and have all the tangibles and intangibles that come with a vehicle from those brands and there is a justifiable price premium. The Tesla is a Mazda CX9 to a BMW X5...as a good example. The buyer of the Mazda cares about the "value" and thinks that the X5 is an amount of money more while the person who wants the X5 doesn't think about the Mazda at all. All EV GLC is coming for buyers who want the additional luxury, finish, style and comfort of the Mercedes in a full EV.
Its like your LR Defender. Is a Ford Bronco in the same segment? How do you "justify" the huge price premium of it over the Bronco?
Its like your LR Defender. Is a Ford Bronco in the same segment? How do you "justify" the huge price premium of it over the Bronco?
put a large tablet in the middle here and remove the ac vents and you pretty much have an interior that looks like a Model 3/Y.
When I see an Model 3/Y interior, I see a living room with a TV, a couch and nothing else. The Mercedes interior I see a TV, couch, art pieces on the wall, accent pillows, a plant or 2, a rug. Is the living room with a TV and a couch functional and does all you need a living room to do? Yes...but it sure does look boring to me.
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I bought a Bronco Wildtrak and owned both at once for quite a while so arguably yes. That I sold the Wildtrak and kept the Defender tells you which I felt was the better vehicle but yes they're in the same broad segment. I agree there are sub segments, and I think the Defender is well worth the premium over the Bronco. My pushback is solely on the implied suggestion that low end MB/BMW are in segment above the 3/Y. I personally just don't see that.
I think the Defender is worth the premium too, but its no more worth the premium over a Bronco than a GLC is over a Model Y.
In my head I am screaming, "obviously yes! Is this suppose to be some sort of gotcha?"
When I see an Model 3/Y interior, I see a living room with a TV, a couch and nothing else. The Mercedes interior I see a TV, couch, art pieces on the wall, accent pillows, a plant or 2, a rug. Is the living room with a TV and a couch functional and does all you need a living room to do? Yes...but it sure does look boring to me.
When I see an Model 3/Y interior, I see a living room with a TV, a couch and nothing else. The Mercedes interior I see a TV, couch, art pieces on the wall, accent pillows, a plant or 2, a rug. Is the living room with a TV and a couch functional and does all you need a living room to do? Yes...but it sure does look boring to me.
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minimalist huh?
c-class vehicles don't have:
- ventilated seats standard
- screen for rear occupants
- self driving (supervised) option
- automatically open/close your garage
- massive amount of center storage
- frunk, under floor back storage (massive)
- a million other thoughtful smart features
since i bet most c-class vehicles are sold with mb-tex, then there's no difference there either.
the interior 'details' on the c-class vehicles consists of a lot of silver plastic 'bling' and all kinds of shape that don't mesh and that angled center screen is HORRIBLE.
the y does have stitching, cloth or CF type door insert panels and other details. even the DUAL wireless phone charger area is lined with a soft felt like material.
tons of Y interior pics here...
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...erior-gallery/
it's a serene very nice place to be, without 'flashy' busy 'details' for the sake of trying to impress.
i wanted the model X at first because it's even nicer inside, but in the end, i couldn't justify the cost for the differences. and didn't need a vehicle that big.
c-class vehicles don't have:
- ventilated seats standard
- screen for rear occupants
- self driving (supervised) option
- automatically open/close your garage
- massive amount of center storage
- frunk, under floor back storage (massive)
- a million other thoughtful smart features
since i bet most c-class vehicles are sold with mb-tex, then there's no difference there either.
the interior 'details' on the c-class vehicles consists of a lot of silver plastic 'bling' and all kinds of shape that don't mesh and that angled center screen is HORRIBLE.
the y does have stitching, cloth or CF type door insert panels and other details. even the DUAL wireless phone charger area is lined with a soft felt like material.
tons of Y interior pics here...
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...erior-gallery/
it's a serene very nice place to be, without 'flashy' busy 'details' for the sake of trying to impress.
i wanted the model X at first because it's even nicer inside, but in the end, i couldn't justify the cost for the differences. and didn't need a vehicle that big.
- HUD
- Apply CarPlay/Android Auto
- More than 2 interior colors/6 trim options
- 3D surround view cameras
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Interesting discussion. I'm personally a fan of the minimalist approach taken by Tesla, although there is no doubt the Mercedes is definitely more premium, it looks cluttered to me, just my opinion. Also the Model Y and 3 I do consider "Premium", but still an appliance. Do they compete in the same market? I have no idea, but definitely not from a performance/tech perspective, Model Y and 3 win hands down. IMO of course. I do respect that Tesla's minimalist approach is not for everyone
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