nice. i see a glc350e starts at $61550
a model y awd premium starts at $48,990
so that's $12.5k difference.

and y includes all these things that are extra on mb (bringing it to over $64k)



phev certainly gives long range and in the glc case enough battery for local errands/commute for most people.
but you pay for it.

 

Wife wanted to get back in a Benz. It was 70+ K . I wanted full electric, but she wanted no part. I'm very happy I got her in a PHEV. Tesla is a great car, but absolutely no interest in it, no matter the price.

 

This guy’s plate beats all the plates I’ve seen. How in the world did it get passed?!

 

The person who approved this doesn't speak Vietnamese?

 

Yeah its pretty great. We wish the Pacifica got more like 50-60 miles of EV range...

Comparing the GLC with a Model Y doesn't make any sense, GLC is a higher end vehicle. Compare a Model Y to something like a Rav 4 Prime sure.

 

Well sure but the Tesla Model Y vs say a GLC isn't so much about one SUV vs another and more about where you place most emphasis on the EV vs ICE spectrum.

Sure, the GLC is a bit more premium and has a good range, but compared to the Model Y it falls short on tech, future proofing, NVH, performance and electric only range by about 80%.

And let's not forget the sleight of hand. You're not getting 1217 miles out of a tank on the GLC without a lot of short electric-only miles and a lot of EV battery charging and top ups as you rack up those 1217 miles. So that shifts the goalposts as you're not comparing range in the same way. 1217 miles in a Tesla Model Y requires four charges while you sleep, or a few odd extra shorter charges here and there.

 

Rivian stock is up 25% on news of reduced losses per vehicle, they company just might make it which would be awesome. Go Rivian.

 

If you want an EV product that is comparable to a GLC though, its not a Model Y. Upcoming GLC EV...GV70 EV etc. The Model Y is just not a "luxury" vehicle. Its much less expensive because its not a comparable vehicle.

For me, if the car needs to be plugged in its going to be plugged in every night whether it "needs" to be or not. So the GLC has a fresh 60 miles of range every morning, just as our Pacifica PHEV does. All the driving for the day is done in full EV, so for all intents and purposes its the same prospect you just have less full EV performance and less overall range. I hardly ever drive more than 50 miles in a day, so EV or PHEV all my driving is going to be on battery power and the ICE is only going to be used for trips, Thats what makes a vehicle like that so compelling IMO because you get the convenience and experience of an EV around town without the travel downsides. No battery top ups as when the battery is exhausted you just run on gas, but MB PHEVs can be DC fast charged which is pretty cool.

 

I agree. I am rooting for them.

 

stopping to charge every 200+ miles is not inconvenient to me, at all. i want to stop after all that distance anyway. walk around, maybe snack, drink, bio break...

 

Same here 👍Need to empty the bladder and stretch my legs makes these stop happen regardless of what I'm driving

 

The GLC is arguably a bit nicer than the Juniper Y but it isn't 15K nicer. It's the SUV that Mercedes views as the SUV offering in the C Class so it's absolutely comparable to the Model Y IMO, just as the C and 3 Series sedans are in the same broad class as the Model 3. And 60kW charging means you're taking the same or longer to put 45 EV miles into the GLC as it takes to put around 230 miles into the 250kW capable Tesla (with 10% to 80% in both taking ~30 minutes or so).

 

I just dont agree. I would pay $15k more for a GLC every day of the week. I also don’t agree that the Model 3 is really comparable to a C Class or a 3 Series either. These are by and large mainstream cars best compared to say a Mustang Mach E or an Ionic 5 and 6. You can make an argument no luxury car is “worth” the premium over a mainstream car.

Agreed DC fast charging a PHEV doesn’t make any sense. Would just drive it on gas. The point isnt just the time spent stopping and charging, its availability of charging. I can drive a PHEV anywhere and not have to worry about charging, that’s a huge benefit to me as I travel to rural places without charging infrastructure. To my cousins in WV, skiing in PA and WV, etc. That’s my hang up.

Our next cars will both be PHEV or EV but I go back and forth between the two for sure. I skipped the PHEV S Class because I didn’t like how it felt on the ICE powertrain but that won’t be the case for every model.

 

Of course they are comparable. The C and 3 Series both start at under 50K, and all three are constantly cross-shopped and cross-compared in comparison tests. MB and BMW deliver some things Tesla does not, but neither of the two can match the Tesla's performance, technology or value. But these are absolutely cars in the same broad class IMO.

 

The base models perhaps, but not when you start adding options and packages to the 3 Series and C Class.