I can tell you, they are going to be filled, at least here in California. If you leave early in the morning, like 7am you would be fine. BTW gas stations are also going to be filled, but the advantage is if you have a big enough tank, you don't have to stop.

This is definitely where an EV can be a bottleneck. The solution for me would be to leave the night before

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Tesla is offering free supercharging...if you travel between 8PM and 9AM during the Thanksgiving holiday. That would save me around $85. During Christmas, it's 7PM to 10AM.

I don't like travelling on Thanksgiving, gas car or EV. The last Thanksgiving trip I made to SoCal was 12 hours, at the time I took my IS350. Mostly stop and go traffic, my leg and hip was killing me. Our next trip will be the Christmas holiday, for sure we are either going to leave in the evening, or the day before

 

My cousin's husband used to work in NYC, he commuted from Edison, NJ. He told me he paid $40 a day in tolls.

When I was in NJ in 2015, I drove from one of my relatives house in South Jersey to Newark, I must of hit 3 toll stops. I didn't realize you are supposed to get a ticket from each of the stops, so when I got to the main toll booth, they charged me the max toll. What a racket! They are talking about making freeways here toll roads, but they are going to face the biggest rebellion ever if they do that. They already have toll roads in SoCal, but you can choose to drive on them or not. They are free if have 3 passengers, but you need a transponder

 

Same, I would fly.

You dont have a traditional job though, and no kids. Driving 800 miles is not fun with kids and when you have limited time to be gone.

 

Tell me about it . When my kids were young and we would go to visit their grandparents in LA, we would leave at night so they would sleep through the drive. Otherwise it would be "ARE WE THERE YET?" every 5 minutes for the 6 and a half hour drive....

 

Tell me about it.

Smart move to make them free during off season. I used to make that 800mi drive at night.

 

My wife and kids left for NJ this morning around 9:30, and shockingly had no traffic. I had to stay here to work but I will go up either tomorrow morning early, or Thursday morning early.

We used to always travel in the middle of the night but as I’ve gotten older I like to do that less and less

 

When I fly, after I land that’s when I rent a Tesla from Turo

In my hybrid cars, 800 mile trip, that’s 1 stop fuel wise. But again I prefer to fly if it’s that far.

 

ha... never done turo but did rent a tesla on my last trip with a flight, through hertz.

 

Couldn’t agree more

 

Heading to Brooklyn Thursday morning for Thanksgiving. I really don’t love driving there and I always rent a car to go up there and I always pay for the rental insurance because who knows what will happen up there. No way I’m taking either of my cars up there. Plus there isn’t a close Tesla charging station near my sister’s place.

 

Every time I go to NY, it's Uber or taxi. No way I'm going to drive in NY. Especially NYC

 

Oh if we had kids we'd definitely be traveling at night, lol.

 

that's a long uber/taxi ride from california.

 

Lol yes I know 😂. I definitely wouldn't drive that far. 400 miles is my limit, than I fly.

As far as driving in NY, I would rather drive through the heart of Compton, which I've done many times. New York drivers+traffic equals no way

 

Gotta admit, dealerships are consistent. Consistently crooked, that is

You'll Probably Still Get Hit With A Markup Buying Your Hyundai Through Amazon

A statement from the automaker pretty much confirms that there isn’t much they can do about dealer pricing.

Hyundai’s recent announcement that buyers will be able to purchase their vehicles through Amazon starting in 2024 was surprising but welcome. The dealer experience has seemed to get worse in the last few years and buying a car online might help matters. Just don’t expect pricing to get any better as Hyundai indirectly confirmed to Carscoops.

The confirmation came in about the most roundabout way possible. Apparently, someone eager to buy their Hyundai off Amazon tweeted on X about trying to purchase an Ioniq 6 they had configured. Once they gave the configuration they wanted to their local Hyundai dealer, they were hit with a $3,000 markup. They then ask “Explain to me the innovation here?” seemingly asking why Hyundai is bragging about this whole Amazon thing. I’ll explain it to you sir: you were using the wrong Hyundai/Amazon product.

The Twitter user was on Hyundai’s existing Amazon digital showroom platform called . It currently allows you to browse and configure Hyundai vehicles in a digital showroom. Once you configure the vehicle you want, you can search local inventory, see pricing, estimate payments and contact a local dealer from there. You can’t buy a car though.

In a statement, Hyundai confirmed this to Carscoops when they showed them what the customer posted in their tweet.
The screenshots in that posting on X appear to be from the current digital showroom experience which links customers to dealer websites. This is different than the new customer sales experience we announced with Amazon last week at the LA Show.

The second part of the statement though pretty much says Hyundai won’t be able to do much about markups, essentially because automakers’ hands are more or less tied when it comes to telling dealers what they can and can’t charge. “It’s worth noting that even with this new program dealers will remain the sellers of record and they will also set the pricing for their vehicles,” the spokesperson added.

So what does this mean exactly? Even though you’ll have the convenience of being able to buy a car online from the comfort of your own home, dealers will still have the final say on pricing, which means you still might get hit with a markup. Hyundai has the right idea by partnering with Amazon; car buying has to change. The reality though is that dealers still have the power to fight that change.

Dealers will find a way to ruin car buying through Amazon. Pricing will either be misleading, dealers will work with the platform up until a certain point and then still try to get buyers to come in, or some dealers might not participate in Amazon car buying at all

https://jalopnik.com/youll-proabably...our-1851041225