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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 09:50 AM
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I am curious about Mazda's vehicle design. If it is a one-size-fits-all design, the results will likely be poor. A pure play approach builds better products. The flexible architecture is by definition a compromise. In the EV space, this has resulted in a can-of-worms wiring solution. Bean counters win, while products pay the price.
I agree with the merits of ground up ev architecture, but outside of Tesla, that play does not work. Legacy oems need the flexibility with customers who are looking for familiarity and challenging regional regulatory markets that demand utmost flexibility. BMW is the leading proof of concept with this mindset in europe, while BYD in other global markets.
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Friend in my neighborhood recently added panels and the improvement in efficiency that has been made is pretty significant. From a pure cost perspective, we paid roughly the same amount for the same number of panels, but he's got about 15% greater generation than I have.
If you dont mind me asking, whats your breakeven or net positive timeframe on the entire system?
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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Mine was about 8 years. NJ has net metering so I feed the grid directly and I get charged for the difference between used and generated. Because I usually overproduce, I build up a cushion of credits in the spring/summer that dwindle down in the fall/winter. Last year or two I haven't been over producing because it's been hot and AC has been running a ton but the highest electricity bill I've seen has been about $150. Prior to solar, my summer bill was between $400-450. I also generate solar credits for every MWh generated which I have set to auto sell. Sales price has been between $200 and $250 per credit and I generate 15 a year so $3000 a year on the low end.
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
NJ has net metering so I feed the grid directly and I get charged for the difference between used and generated. Because I usually overproduce, I build up a cushion of credits in the spring/summer that dwindle down in the fall/winter. Last year or two I haven't been over producing because it's been hot and AC has been running a ton but the highest electricity bill I've seen has been about $150. Prior to solar, my summer bill was between $400-450. I also generate solar credits for every MWh generated which I have set to auto sell. Sales price has been between $200 and $250 per credit and I generate 15 a year so $3000 a year on the low end.
too complicated. you give it, they take it, you give it, they give it, ...

my elec. bill is under $200 without solar, for a good size house, pool and charging 2 electric vehicles.
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 11:33 AM
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I just let the app track everything I'm already at breakeven so everything from here on is money in my pocket
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
too complicated. you give it, they take it, you give it, they give it, ...

my elec. bill is under $200 without solar, for a good size house, pool and charging 2 electric vehicles.
Not complicated, it's totally automatic. The meter runs normally when you're consuming more than you're producing, and backwards when you're overproducing. Here's my billing period that ended last week:



I overproduced, and therefore carry 461kWh into the current period. Where I'm overproducing again. It will snowball through the summer, and then in the winter when I fall short, those credits will be automatically consumed, lowering those bills as well. I've only been online since November, but I've now had three consecutive $20 bills (customer/meter charge only) starting from March, and I expect that to last through at least November if not longer. January or February will likely be my largest bill of the year going forward, but this year February's bill was exactly half of last year, because I produced just over half of my consumption.

All in, it's looking like a roughly 5-year payback.
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Here's my usage:


So far this month with AC usage and charging 3 EV's I'm a little bit ahead
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Originally Posted by geko29
Not complicated, it's totally automatic.
yours is simpler than allen’s. He has these other ‘credits’ being sold too…

anyway, no chance in hell a solar system for me pays back in 5 years based on quotes i’ve had, plus i think i really don’t want all those panels mounted on my steep metal roof. Maybe next house…
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My SRECs are auto sold too. I get a notification then $250 appears
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Old Jun 5, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
My SRECs are auto sold too. I get a notification then $250 appears
Mine were sold in advance. . It took about 6 months after install/PTO, but I deposited that $21k check a couple of weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Mine were sold in advance. . It took about 6 months after install/PTO, but I deposited that $21k check a couple of weeks ago.
Something tells me I should have bought my system instead of leased 😞
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Something tells me I should have bought my system instead of leased 😞
That is always the answer.
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Old Jun 6, 2025 | 02:29 PM
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Can't get over how heavy these things are.

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