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Here the solar companies like SunRun are giving incentives, but PG&E has made the savings almost evaporate without spending an additional $10k to $15k on batteries. The good news is new customers can get batteries for $49 a month additional, but customers like myself who already have solar and are on an older NEM plan (Net Energy Metering) plan can't get these deals
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It was a lame joke implying the other side of the world getting tarriffed is like the dark side of the moon.
Sunny and better in this side.
Yeah, I Know, lame... lol
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Most US-bound panel production comes out of Malaysia, due to tariffs on Chinese production that have been in place for years. The REC 420 AA Pure 2s I had installed last year were from Malaysia. The Enphase microinverters were from South Carolina.
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final assembly or actually mfg in Malaysia?
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Actual manufacturing. Malaysia is the world's 3rd largest producer of solar cells. 80% is indeed done by Chinese-owned companies (the remainder being a combination of locally-owned, US and South Korean owned), but the cells are produced and assembled there. Ironically, the overwhelming majority of panels installed in Malaysia are imported from China. This is because their in-country production is earmarked almost completely for export due to existing tariffs, which date back to 2012.
I misspoke earlier though. My REC panels are from Singapore, not Malaysia. REC did have a polysilicon factory in Washington state, but it closed last year. There are another 287 solar factories in the US, many in the former Rust Belt, that will be at risk of downsizing or closure next year if the residential alternative energy credits are phased out this December as called for in the version of the budget that has passed the House and is being reviewed by the Senate. Currently they extend until at least 2034.
I misspoke earlier though. My REC panels are from Singapore, not Malaysia. REC did have a polysilicon factory in Washington state, but it closed last year. There are another 287 solar factories in the US, many in the former Rust Belt, that will be at risk of downsizing or closure next year if the residential alternative energy credits are phased out this December as called for in the version of the budget that has passed the House and is being reviewed by the Senate. Currently they extend until at least 2034.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2025/06/ma...apanese-plant/
If this is true, wow.
-Mazda's Hofu h2 plant will be able to produce multi propulsion systems on the same line from 2027 (ice to hev to ev)
-near 100% utilization
-cut down production line extensions from 6 weeks to 7 days
-reduce 85% investment cost and 80% lead time.
-automated guided line
Toyota previewed something similar, i wonder if its a joint plan across many JP mfgs under the TMC partnership umbrella?
If this is true, wow.
-Mazda's Hofu h2 plant will be able to produce multi propulsion systems on the same line from 2027 (ice to hev to ev)
-near 100% utilization
-cut down production line extensions from 6 weeks to 7 days
-reduce 85% investment cost and 80% lead time.
-automated guided line
Toyota previewed something similar, i wonder if its a joint plan across many JP mfgs under the TMC partnership umbrella?
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https://www.carscoops.com/2025/06/ma...apanese-plant/
If this is true, wow.
-Mazda's Hofu h2 plant will be able to produce multi propulsion systems on the same line from 2027 (ice to hev to ev)
-near 100% utilization
-cut down production line extensions from 6 weeks to 7 days
-reduce 85% investment cost and 80% lead time.
-automated guided line
Toyota previewed something similar, i wonder if its a joint plan across many JP mfgs under the TMC partnership umbrella?
If this is true, wow.
-Mazda's Hofu h2 plant will be able to produce multi propulsion systems on the same line from 2027 (ice to hev to ev)
-near 100% utilization
-cut down production line extensions from 6 weeks to 7 days
-reduce 85% investment cost and 80% lead time.
-automated guided line
Toyota previewed something similar, i wonder if its a joint plan across many JP mfgs under the TMC partnership umbrella?
Last edited by JeffKeryk; Jun 5, 2025 at 06:31 AM.
Friend in my neighborhood recently added panels and the improvement in efficiency that has been made is pretty significant. From a pure cost perspective, we paid roughly the same amount for the same number of panels, but he's got about 15% greater generation than I have.
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Friend in my neighborhood recently added panels and the improvement in efficiency that has been made is pretty significant. From a pure cost perspective, we paid roughly the same amount for the same number of panels, but he's got about 15% greater generation than I have.