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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Read up on the 21" Arachnid wheels and the camber issue that eats tires. I specifically looked for a car with the 19s to avoid it. Not much upside to the 21" except looks, and I don't really care that much for how they look. The 19s ride better, are quieter, and I've even seen tests where the 19s perform slightly better in straight line acceleration. I didn't really care for the looks of the 19s at first, but I've warmed up to them. No way I would touch a car with the 21s. The pics of uneven wear that I've seen is downright dangerous.
My thoughts exactly. My coworker bought 21" wheels for his Y, and not only is it louder, has a harsher ride and massive range reduction, but he hit a small pothole and there she wrote

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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:40 PM
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21" tire on a medium sized sedan is insanity it needs to stop.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Read up on the 21" Arachnid wheels and the camber issue that eats tires. I specifically looked for a car with the 19s to avoid it. Not much upside to the 21" except looks, and I don't really care that much for how they look. The 19s ride better, are quieter, and I've even seen tests where the 19s perform slightly better in straight line acceleration. I didn't really care for the looks of the 19s at first, but I've warmed up to them. No way I would touch a car with the 21s. The pics of uneven wear that I've seen is downright dangerous.
You have to pay to play my friend 😄

You have to get adjustable camber arms like the N2itive camber arms just so that you can get the fatter tires on the 21 Arachnids (265 and 295 tires) just for the awesome wide rear look. 😄

It's kinda silly how Tesla has deliberately not addressed the flawed camber when you buy the 21 inch wheels/tires also sold by Tesla
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:55 PM
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Plus, I'm kinda tired of the "huge wheels with the super thin tires showing all the brake hardware" look.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:59 PM
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You have to pay to play my friend 😄

You have to get adjustable camber arms like the N2itive camber arms just so that you can get the fatter tires on the 21 Arachnids (265 and 295 tires) just for the awesome wide rear look. 😄

It's kinda silly how Tesla has deliberately not addressed the flawed camber when you buy the 21 inch wheels/tires also sold by Tesla
Yeah, I've read about that solution, I just don't think it's worth it. Not for me, anyway.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 09:01 PM
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Some of the EQS sedans near me that are just under 2 years old are listed for $43-$46k. That is a crazy deal on what looks to be a very luxurious car.
now you've got me curious to look locally.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Yeah, I've read about that solution, I just don't think it's worth it. Not for me, anyway.
Agreed it's not worth it.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 09:22 PM
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I agree that the 21" staggered wheels give the S that muscular look, but I would go with the 19" as well. The ride quality is what's more important to me. Plus you would be going through tires making pay to play a reality
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Plus...just sayin'

"Tesla Plaid Channel says all five runs in the Plaid with the 19-inch standard wheels proved faster than both runs in the Plaid wearing 21s, which should come as no surprise if you know anything about how wheel size impacts acceleration. That's a different story for a different day, however, and there are always rare exceptions."

https://insideevs.com/news/534376/te...ferent-wheels/
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Plus...just sayin'

"Tesla Plaid Channel says all five runs in the Plaid with the 19-inch standard wheels proved faster than both runs in the Plaid wearing 21s, which should come as no surprise if you know anything about how wheel size impacts acceleration. That's a different story for a different day, however, and there are always rare exceptions."

https://insideevs.com/news/534376/te...ferent-wheels/
Not knocking the 19s, but the difference in speed is really academic and is splitting hairs realistically.

I doubt 99% of the owners would notice the difference in day to day driving where 99% of the time the car is used.

Personally I would get after market better quality/lighter wheels like the Signature SV104 in 20's (295 front and 305 rear) as the most optimal upgrade for speed and looks.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Did you test drive the S with the 21" wheels? Also I wouldn't compare sound isolation of any Tesla to a luxury vehicle, especially an older Lexus. The Model S is Sports-Luxury, but more sports than luxury. If you go with the 19" Tempest Wheels, you'll get a quieter, smoother ride, but than you would be compromising performance and looks.

I would take a look at the Demos, they are still new and heavily discounted. You wouldn't know the difference between ordering one and buying a Demo except price
Yes, this one was the 19" wheels. I agree it doesn't look as good, but I could also consider some better looking after-market wheels that would fit those tires. My MYP is 300 mile range, whereas the S is 400 miles, so even if after market wheels make me lose some range, it'll still be way better than my MYP... and on top of that, I don't really care because I've only used a Super Charger 2 times in 2 years of owning the Y. The car is used for around town so range isn't any concern for me.

I'm going to at least do my due diligence and test drive some other EV's like I mentioned. And if I had to guess I would imagine this to be something I'd execute on in about 6-9 months anyway so I'm still in tire kicking mode. I'd love to be able to snag a lightly used silver S. That's the color I want.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
now you've got me curious to look locally.
Yeah, a 450+ like 5 miles from me is a certified 2022 with 13k miles for $46k. 2022 certified with 21k miles is $43,500. I have actually found the styling of these has grown on me quite a bit and the interior is gorgeous as you would expect out of MB. This just seems like a whole lot of car for the money and I am a sucker for value. However, I am skeptical about the user interface which is really important to me. Tesla just makes it so easy and so intuitive. But I want to drive the MB as part of my homework to compare against the Model S.

I know the 580 is the faster version, but I don't see any of those (used) for sale near me.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:43 AM
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Saw a Sierra EV over the weekend. Looked great; I love the color. This was the first one I have seen- I think this was the Denali trim but not sure. Either way, it was beautiful.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:43 AM
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I wasn't that impressed with the material choices in the sedan I test drove. It was more E class vs. S class.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I agree that the 21" staggered wheels give the S that muscular look, but I would go with the 19" as well. The ride quality is what's more important to me. Plus you would be going through tires making pay to play a reality
I would only buy the car with the 21 inch wheels. They have a huge impact on how the car looks, it looks okay without them but amazing with them.

That’s one thing that bugs me about my S580, it has the 19 inch wheels I didn’t want. The 20s look incredible on it. To get them now would cost like $8,000.
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