​​​​​​ Guilty as charged

 

Yeah but the CT was "revolutionary" or at least, there ain't a damn thing on the road like it.

You can't take a storied muscle car and rip out the monster V8, replace it with batteries and add a huge speaker to simulate exhaust and engine sounds and think it's gonna work.

What a disaster. This would be like making some phony EV from an ICE car lol.

 

Couldn't agree more

 

Ford is displeased with this post.

 

This is all in good humor..... but I really laughed at this meme.

 

sure, that one example is good, but tell that to people who moved to SF right before covid and lost their ***. ok a graph... showing they MAY have lost their *** but certainly most didn't make money especially with outrageous realtor fees, taxes, etc.



tfl hates ev's and of course tests this buzz in the worst possible weather.

 

There are blips everywhere, but Bay Area real estate by and large doesn’t lose money, and normal rules just don’t apply. The area I just left was the first metropolitan area in the US where the median home value - and remember, these are prices for average run of the mill family homes - exceeded $2 million. Unless you’ve lived in markets like that, where homes sell in a day with no buyer contingencies, you can’t really understand the dynamics. Homes in my neighborhood went up $1m between Jan 2020 and Jan 2022. Little blip in 23 and back to 22 peak in 24.

And for all the attempts on CL to paint San Francisco as some kind of dystopian hellhole, I hate to bring up the small matter of basic economics but if it were as bad as Rupert Murdoch would have you believe median home prices wouldn’t be 1.5m+ and homes wouldn’t sell in days.

 

Imagine putting a home on the market, selling it over the weekend with multiple bidders asking $100k over list, with no inspection, no contingencies. That's the Bay area. Sell your property over night, spend the next three months trying to buy. I sold my townhouse in 2015 in one weekend, spent 3 months trying to buy. Bought my current house at $650k, today 8 years later it's worth $1.3M. If I put it on the market (around June is the best month), I'll get multiple offers and sell it in a weekend with no contingencies

 

Yeah, no. Nobody who moved into the bay area before Covid lost any money. Average price trends like this don't mean that the values of individual properties have fluctuated that much, its an average of the properties that were brought to market and transacted, values are way up in the bay area from before Covid.

The bay area is one of the strongest real estate markets in the country and is still a strong sellers market.

 

At least they didn't replace the real Mustang with this...

 

You're paying for the geographic beauty and weather. Of which you just can't beat. SF is just stunning with the bridges and hills and architecture.

But it is pretty bad (compared to how it used to be), I was there last year and have been there many times. We stayed at the Fairmont. That little area was nice but it got run down fast when you left. We went to a rooftop bar at the Hilton and the streets looked unsafe when the cab dropped us off.... on the road where a fancy Hilton was. We went on a boat bridge tour, and literally where the Uber dropped us off at the Wharf, the very next day people were breaking into cars right there.... in broad daylight.

 

yeah no. a huge part of why SF and bay area is so expensive is because of the tech companies and the competition to hire people, bringing enormous compensation and enormous pressure on available housing. and sf weather itself isn't great (cold, cloudy and foggy a lot of the time).

 

I'm not a fan of SF. It has it's own weather patterns separate from the rest of the Bay Area. It could be 90F in San Jose and 60F in SF, and even colder if you are on the Golden Gate. It also has it's own culture. You couldn't pay me enough to live there

 

Yes and also a huge part is because it's stunningly beautiful.... and it never rains, the weather is great most of the time. It NEVER gets hot which offsets chilly months for me personally. I lived in California, it's called the sunshine tax. Everywhere along the coast costs a fortune.

SF was always expensive, before computers even.

There's just something about it, I love the place but wouldn't live there.

 

AJT is right. It's obviously not just one thing or another, but the climate, the weather and the beauty of the coastal areas absolutely are major factors. As is the presence of the tech companies, no doubt. But one drives the other. The tech companies are there because the talent is there, and the talent is there because it's generally just a nice place to live. And that of course puts pressure on home prices etc. But weather totally factors in. It did for us. We moved to the Bay Area from Chicago, and as much as we loved Chicago and the midwest, the upgrade in weather was a big thing for us. And you are right that the weather in SF itself isn't always the best, summers are nowhere near as good as they are in Silicon Valley because of the marine layer etc, but for much of the year the weather in SF is nice. Not too hot, never cold. Fall in particular is spectacular.