Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

General EV Conversation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 04:32 PM
  #4366  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,923
Likes: 4,123
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by swajames
Can't take those non-specific dealer rebates at face value, much of the time they are the aggregate of multiple essentially unstackable rebates where you couldn't possibly qualify for all of them (e.g. you have to be a teacher who is also in the military, is a recent college grad while also being a senior and the owner of three different competitor vehicles).
This has not been my experience at all. The dealer advertising a total amount off that is not achievable because the rebates can't be stacked would be illegal, the rebate has to be achievable. "Up to $5,000" means not all customers will have access to the entirety of the rebate (maybe there is a military rebate, or a loyalty rebate for instance) but they can't advertise rebates that cannot be stacked in that way.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 05:14 PM
  #4367  
Mike728's Avatar
Mike728
Lexus Test Driver
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,477
Likes: 959
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by swajames
Can't take those non-specific dealer rebates at face value, much of the time they are the aggregate of multiple essentially unstackable rebates where you couldn't possibly qualify for all of them (e.g. you have to be a teacher who is also in the military, is a recent college grad while also being a senior and the owner of three different competitor vehicles).
That's what the local Ford dealer does here. Not all are like that, but they do exist.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 07:05 PM
  #4368  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,925
Likes: 4,058
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
The dealer advertising a total amount off that is not achievable because the rebates can't be stacked would be illegal, the rebate has to be achievable.
i'd be shocked, SHOCKED, if a dealer did that.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 09:39 PM
  #4369  
swajames's Avatar
swajames
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 4,006
Likes: 1,639
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
This has not been my experience at all. The dealer advertising a total amount off that is not achievable because the rebates can't be stacked would be illegal, the rebate has to be achievable. "Up to $5,000" means not all customers will have access to the entirety of the rebate (maybe there is a military rebate, or a loyalty rebate for instance) but they can't advertise rebates that cannot be stacked in that way.
They absolutely do this. That’s why I brought it up. One of the CJD dealers near here was notorious for it. And note I said essentially unshakable. There might just be an 80 year old out there who’s a recent college grad, active military and also a first responder…
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 10:18 PM
  #4370  
BayeauxLex's Avatar
BayeauxLex
Lead Lap
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 3,958
Likes: 409
Default

Buy a Lightning, get a free charger + install
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:00 PM
  #4371  
Margate330's Avatar
Margate330
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 11,311
Likes: 1,618
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by swajames
They absolutely do this. That’s why I brought it up. One of the CJD dealers near here was notorious for it. And note I said essentially unshakable. There might just be an 80 year old out there who’s a recent college grad, active military and also a first responder…
They also send out adds in the mail for cars that don't exist for ridiculous low prices and payments.

​​​​​Got a plastic key in my mailbox the other day that "might be your new car" from a local dealer, just another gimmick. Lol

I should've took a pic and posted it up.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:03 PM
  #4372  
FrankReynoldsCPA's Avatar
FrankReynoldsCPA
Lexus Test Driver
15 Year Member
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,417
Likes: 371
From: Las Vegas
Default

My favorite is the letter I get from the local Ford dealership offering me a "well above market" price for my truck (it's well under KBB trade-in) and then telling me about their special where they'll kick in another $1,000 in cash and get me into a new car for less than my truck.

Ford does not make a car with an MSRP less than what they will give me for my truck, and if they're talking about getting me in lower payments than I have now, good luck.....the truck's been paid off for 5 years.

Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 04:11 AM
  #4373  
Toys4RJill's Avatar
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 35,514
Likes: 392
From: ON/NY
Default

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Good incentive to buy. I think Ford is offering 0% financing or 0.9%
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 04:31 AM
  #4374  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,237
Likes: 538
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Good incentive to buy. I think Ford is offering 0% financing or 0.9%
Won't change anything, some could call it an incentive... I think it's more of a desperate move.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 04:34 AM
  #4375  
Allen K's Avatar
Allen K
-0----0-
CL Folding 25,000
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 10,236
Likes: 1,203
From: NJ
Default

Just got the email that my free NACS adapter is on the way. I've used my A2Z adapter a grand total of 0 times. It'll be good to have on my trip to Boston during Thanksgiving. Might try each one on the trip

Edit: thanks bit

Last edited by Allen K; Oct 1, 2024 at 07:55 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 05:50 AM
  #4376  
geko29's Avatar
geko29
CL Community Team
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Community Influencer
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,403
Likes: 623
From: IL
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
Won't change anything, some could call it an incentive... I think it's more of a desperate move.
Then Chevy must be really desperate, because they've got 1.9% on the Colorado and 0.0% on the Silverado. Both have the added incentive of no payments until 2025. I guess we should expect them to stop selling pickups soon.

Subsidized financing rates have been a normal sales incentive for much of the last 20 years. They retreated in the past couple years because the pandemic supply crunch made them unnecessary. But they're creeping back and will become commonplace again.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 06:14 AM
  #4377  
Bob04's Avatar
Bob04
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,550
Likes: 668
From: SC
Default

My almost free universal charger from Tesla should be here later this week.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 06:58 AM
  #4378  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,923
Likes: 4,123
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by swajames
They absolutely do this. That’s why I brought it up. One of the CJD dealers near here was notorious for it. And note I said essentially unshakable. There might just be an 80 year old out there who’s a recent college grad, active military and also a first responder…
But those rebates ARE stackable. You said advertising rebates that cannot be stacked and you're not going to see that.

For instance Mercedes has $5,000 dealer cash and there is also $5,500 in an AMEX incentive. They can't be stacked, its either/or. So no you don't see them out advertising $10,500 off.

CJD dealers do advertise a total rebate including all rebates you need to qualify for, but if you do qualify for all of them which is possible even if its unusual, then you can stack them all. Thats not really false advertising.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 07:01 AM
  #4379  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,237
Likes: 538
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by geko29
Then Chevy must be really desperate, because they've got 1.9% on the Colorado and 0.0% on the Silverado. Both have the added incentive of no payments until 2025. I guess we should expect them to stop selling pickups soon.
.
I'm not talking about financing. I'm talking about Ford paying to come fix up your house. Think Ford/EV makers thought they'd be doing this 5 or even 2 years ago? I doubt it. Remember the F-150 Lightning is one of the most significant vehicles ever according to MT Truck of the year award. They might as well just start giving these Fords away. You just see the window stickers in these EVs (not Tesla--they'll sell forever) and it's just ludicrous, the prices. They need to come wayyyy downnnnn.

Last edited by AJT123; Oct 1, 2024 at 07:05 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2024 | 07:07 AM
  #4380  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,923
Likes: 4,123
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
I'm not talking about financing for god's sake. I'm talking about Ford paying to come fix up your house. Think EV makers thought they'd be doing this 5 or even 2 years ago? I doubt it. They might as well just start giving these Fords away. You just see the window stickers in these EVs (not Tesla--they'll sell forever) and it's just ludicrous, the prices. They need to come wayyyy downnnnn.
This kind of offer is not unusual. Hyundai has offered this for at least a year, when my neighbor got her Ioniq 5 they came and did her charger install. BMW has been doing this as well, Tesla also has been doing this, not sure if they are doing it still.

There is a company called Qmerit that these manufacturers contract with and its a really cheap and easy way to help the consumer make the move to an EV, if they don't have to worry about installing the charger. They will only pay up to I think its $2,000 plus the wall unit itself.

Having to install a wall charger and find an electrician who knows what they are doing etc is a big objection for people who want to go EV, relieving them of that objection is just smart business.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:40 AM.

story-0
2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

Slideshow: the 2026 IS 350 isn't all that new, and that's why we love it!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-04 14:35:23


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

Slideshow: 10 most confusing things Lexus has ever done.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-04 09:40:55


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

Slideshow: Our First-Drive Review of the 2026 Lexus ES!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-29 20:30:16


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

Slideshow: 10 Lexus bargain that are cheaper than a new Toyota.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 10:28:20


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

Slideshow: From hoverboards to luxury yachts, these are the strangest projects Lexus has ever attached its badge to.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-16 11:34:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-8
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE