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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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Yeah those fancier ones you posted look really nice.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I was driving my V8 today. Such a dream! And the 5 speed auto transmission is outstanding. No start stop. Full-time Four Wheel Drive 4wd. Just majestic
you really need to drive a vehicle with the drivetrain that cannot be mentioned here. it's smoother, faster, quieter, more reliable, and in one brand, more capable off road. now that's majestic.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you really need to drive a vehicle with the drivetrain that cannot be mentioned here. it's smoother, faster, quieter, more reliable, and in one brand, more capable off road. now that's majestic.
I must concur
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
for basically that car's entire existence i had written it off as 'just a ford' and never really paid much attention to it... but like 5 years ago the toyota dealership i worked at had a used one for sale and i sold it to some chill 70 something guy, and i got to be the one to drive it to his house for the delivery

it was a nice thing to drive! at one point toward the end of the trip i got to give it some beans (in a respectful manner of course lol) and the engine really impressed me! seemed almost too good to be an early 2000s ford engine, at which point i did a quick google search and learned it's actually a jaguar V8 lol... since then i've been a fan of that car, and i agree it's definitely underappreciated
nice post and interesting about it having a jag engine!
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I can’t believe this Lamd Cruiser is near me.




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I must concur
Lol Okay Jeep Grand Cherokee L with a snorting 5.7 V8 and full-time 4WD. Only thing it lacks is a proper fully boxed frame

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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 07:48 PM
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Don’t get me wrong I love a V8, but a great EV powertrain is smoothness on another level
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‘I wasn’t comparing it to an EV. I was just saying that it is really nice to drive something simple every once in a while. I don’t even have variable valve timing on my 2UZ. No screens

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‘I wasn’t comparing it to an EV. I was just saying that it is really nice to drive something simple every once in a while. I don’t even have variable valve timing on my 2UZ. No screens
Sure but there are better cars for that experience than a 4Runner, your car is a midrange example of the type and while decent it's not exactly special. I didn't notice all that much difference between the 4.7 and 4.0 versions of it since both are very slow and have the same suspension feel.

A G-wagon is a much better example of that type of car as is the LC/LX
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V8 4Runner is a pretty cool vehicle. Even the V6 4Runner. Not everybody can afford a G Wagen lol, myself included. There’s always “something better” nothing wrong with being excited about what you’ve got.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
V8 4Runner is a pretty cool vehicle. Even the V6 4Runner. Not everybody can afford a G Wagen lol, myself included. There’s always “something better” nothing wrong with being excited about what you’ve got.
You can totally get a G-wagon for the price of a 4Runner, they are bad but not new 4Runner bad and you get a much higher prestige and function car in the end.
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You can totally get a G-wagon for the price of a 4Runner, they are bad but not new 4Runner bad and you get a much higher prestige and function car in the end.
Perhaps an ancient totally ragged out G Wagen.

Not everybody cares about “prestige”, and not everybody wants to drive decades old cars.

EDIT, looked it up…in order to get a G Wagen for 4 Runner money it’s got to be 20 years old and/or have well over 150k miles. Yeah, no interest in a 20 year old car. That vehicle has needs that most people can’t handle. It’s a much better move to just spend $45,000 on a new 4Runner and you get a very cool BOF vehicle with a ton of capability and no unique needs.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Perhaps an ancient totally ragged out G Wagen.

Not everybody cares about “prestige”, and not everybody wants to drive decades old cars.

EDIT, looked it up…in order to get a G Wagen for 4 Runner money it’s got to be 20 years old and/or have well over 150k miles. Yeah, no interest in a 20 year old car. That vehicle has needs that most people can’t handle. It’s a much better move to just spend $45,000 on a new 4Runner and you get a very cool BOF vehicle with a ton of capability and no unique needs.
And at the end of the day it's still just a 4Runner, if I'm gonna spend that much I want something worth that much. Otherwise I'll just lease and pay a small fraction of real cost in exchange for not really owning the car, leasing is very good for being able to have access to far more options than normal.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
And at the end of the day it's still just a 4Runner, if I'm gonna spend that much I want something worth that much. Otherwise I'll just lease and pay a small fraction of real cost in exchange for not really owning the car, leasing is very good for being able to have access to far more options than normal.
A new G Wagen is a $3,500 monthly lease payment lol. We’re talking about completely different strata of cars here and nobody is comparing the two. The average income of a G Wagen driver is likely over $500,000 a year.

To you it’s “just a 4 Runner”, but lots of people just want a 4 Runner. Nothing wrong with a 4 Runner. I know people who have and love 4 Runners, and people who aspire to own a 4 Runner and can’t yet afford one. Your argument that you can buy something old that’s better for what a new 4 Runner costs doesn’t hold water when you consider you can also buy an old 4 Runner for dramatically less than the old car you’re buying compared to the new 4 Runner. Don’t be so elitist.

A 4 Runner is a vehicle with a rich heritage and a ton of capability that will serve somebody for 300,000 miles. Nothing to sneeze at there.

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Saw a Buick Riviera today. Was at the end of its life. Anyways, in hindsight, meh it’s not that special. But, I thought the front window wiper bump stops was pretty interesting.








Also saw a Lexus LS400. Blue…. I’ve never loved them but I know lots do.




And finally. Saw this adorable trailer



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Do you get most of these in Toronto? You see a lot of cool cars, and/or just interesting finds. I haven't seen a '93 LS400 in a blue moon. And frankly you find cars that appear to still be running that have evidently lasted so many of those hard winters!




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