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The thing that sucks is, minus that the Northstar was a very potent engine. They had it sorted out by the last of the '05-'06 DeVilles I think.
But otherwise, yep. Junk. About 80k is when they blow.
Jill, Fail Wheel Drive= front wheel drive. Not that desirable with a V8.
It was a great motor when it was new…surprising lack of torque steer also for the power.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
The sales figures explained why Cadillac still had vehicles and interiors like that in the 1990s. They sold.....particularly to Boomers and their parents. Those of the WWII Generation bought them for decades. I knew one woman who got a new Cadillac DeVille like clockwork every year for 48 years...until she passed. She would always order the latest new color.
Actually like I said, Lincoln was running circles around Cadillacs and those old models in the late 80s early 90s. Solidly outselling them.
Actually like I said, Lincoln was running circles around Cadillacs and those old models in the late 80s early 90s. Solidly outselling them.
Three factors, though. First, the same people that liked DeVilles and Fleetwoods (mainly the WWII generation and some Baby Boomers) were also buying Town Cars. Second, many Town Car sales, even more so than Cadillacs, were fleet-sales to the limo, executive-car, livery, and funeral-home companies......though some of them also admittedly had Cadillacs. Third, several years later, one thing that helped the sale and value of used Town Cars was when the body-styling as changed, in 1997-98, from the traditional three-box design to the new one with its more Jaguar-esque look to the roof and rear end and loss of the hood-ornament. There was considerable resistance to the new design at first, and residual-values of the older models rose significantly.
Last edited by mmarshall; Jul 7, 2023 at 07:40 PM.
Three factors, though. First, the same people that liked DeVilles and Fleetwoods (mainly the WWII generation and some Baby Boomers) were also buying Town Cars. Second, many Town Car sales, even more so than Cadillacs, were fleet-sales to the limo, executive-car, livery, and funeral-home companies......though some of them also admittedly had Cadillacs. Third, several years later, one thing that helped the sale and value of used Town Cars was when the body-styling as changed, in 1997-98, from the traditional three-box design to the new one with its more Jaguar-esque look to the roof and rear end and loss of the hood-ornament. There was considerable resistance to the new design at first, and residual-values of the older models rose significantly.
People didn’t buy a Deville or Fleetwood and a Town Car, they decided between the two, and they chose the Town Car…it was a much more modern car with airbags and modern digital instruments etc.
That may be true, but people liked them like that.. My Dad had a 1990 Seville that had a decent interior, I don't remember any glaring flaws. It was pretty nice actually.
And wow on that Northstar bill I didn't know it was THAT much.
Originally Posted by Margate330
The LS400 may be the "better" car.
But I think the Caddy kicks it's butt up and down the highway on interior and styling.
Liking that Caddy's thick pile carpeting.
I liked the mid 90s Cadillacs. The Eldorado and then called the ETS was so cool as it was a 2-door. I always thought the interior looked cozy, especially the back seat. Even the last gen Fleetwood was cool while at the same time so stupid. I like it too
^^^ tell me that is not cozy
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People didn’t buy a Deville or Fleetwood and a Town Car, they decided between the two, and they chose the Town Car…it was a much more modern car with airbags and modern digital instruments etc.
My point was that DeVille/Fleetwood and Town Car sales came from roughly the same group of buyers....middle-aged-to-seniors with money to spare.
After 1995, airbags were not an issue.....they were required in all new American-market vehicles.
Not everyone liked digital instruments.......even some TC buyers complained about them. Many of them had had analog gauges their whole lives, and had gotten used to them.
I liked the mid 90s Cadillacs. The Eldorado and then called the ETS was so cool as it was a 2-door. I always thought the interior looked cozy, especially the back seat. Even the last gen Fleetwood was cool while at the same time so stupid. I like it too
^^^ tell me that is not cozy
That looks like the most amazingly comfortable backseat in history.
That looks like the most amazingly comfortable backseat in history.
Looks don't always tell the story. It was nowhere near the size (or legroom) of the big plush back seats in the full-sized American Luxury cars of the 60s and 70s.
Now HERE's a back seat...........the 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
I liked those Eldos too. I drove by one with a for sale sign today actually.
My dad wanted an Eldorado but he needed a sedan for work.
Oh yeah, Bill just reviewed a last-year black one. He's not really a fan but I am, it's gorgeous. Sounds great when he hammers it, that was one of the traits NS was known for, American rumble.
Even the last gen Fleetwood was cool while at the same time so stupid. I like it too
