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I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
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The 1991 W140 S-class was the first to have four-zone automatic climate control.
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I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
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I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
That or the W140 or E32.
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Oh yeah, it was not a good car lol. My dad's was a lease, but he drove a lot back then and it had almost 70k miles on it after 3 years and **** was falling off the interior, rattles everywhere...trading it in for the LS400 was like a revelation. That car finally was what made him say enough was enough with American cars.
Then the northstar and head gaskets basically totaled them...
Then the northstar and head gaskets basically totaled them...
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I gave up on GM after replacing the windshield washer pump for the nth time on my ’84 Camaro in the 90s. The plastic impeller inside would just fall apart almost annually. It was so aggravating to replace it constantly. Such a minor part GM couldn’t get right. I don’t remember ever dealing with that piece on another car ever since.
Well, that and the starter that would get overheated and not work.
Well, that and the starter that would get overheated and not work.
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With all due respect, you're exaggerating it somewhat. Back in those days, when you paid extra for a Cadillac, you generally got something for your money, although not to the extent of what was the case decades earlier, when the Cadillac slogan was the "Standard of the World".
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Gets back to what I said earlier in another thread.....some people don't understand how automotive systems work. I myself am no exception.....while I am more educated than average in the automotive field, there are a number things on today's cars I don't mess with (Android, Apple-Car-Play, Alexa, Bluetooth, Advanced-NAV, etc....) simply because of their complexity and the fact that I don't understand how some of it works.
