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I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
The Google machine says it was the 1975 Rolls Royce Camargue Coupe. But the first "normal" car to have it was the E32 7-series in 1986, though it didn't come to the US until 1988.
The 1991 W140 S-class was the first to have four-zone automatic climate control.
I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
Rolls-Royce had it in the mid seventies, but I doubt it worked very well.
I remember those Cadillac STS's, my parents considered one before buying their LS400. Great looking car, really comfortable inside but I remember feeling somewhat car sick on the test drive in the back seat (and I never get car sick). Interesting pic from Steve showing the placement of the AC control behind the steering wheel. And then in 96 they moved it and added dual zone climate. Wonder which manufacturer first introduced driver and passenger climate controls and when that was released.. anyone know that factoid?
I think it was GM with a early-mid 90s Park Avenue, there was a fancy control near the passenger vent.
I'm not disagreeing with you. GM's build-quality left a lot to be desired in the 1990s....but the STS had one of the best GM interiors of the period. They just weren't all that well-assembled.
Thats like saying one dogs poop doesnt smell as bad as the rest of the dog's poop.
Oh yeah, it was not a good car lol. My dad's was a lease, but he drove a lot back then and it had almost 70k miles on it after 3 years and **** was falling off the interior, rattles everywhere...trading it in for the LS400 was like a revelation. That car finally was what made him say enough was enough with American cars.
Then the northstar and head gaskets basically totaled them...
my parents STS never had any interior problems. I thought it was assembled ok. But almost everything broke aside from the engine. Fog lights, struts, steering, bearings all needed replacing. The transmission wouldn’t go past 3rd gear. Brake strip light . Calipers. Door locks. The icing on the cake was the power closing soft touch trunk…when it broke it wouldn’t close so my dad had to tie it down….and the driver side window motor was broken, so we were able to get it to the closed position and it was just driven that way until my brother borrowed my dads car and went to the McDonald’s and ordered via the drive thru. GM made some awful stuff. (Still do)
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Thats like saying one dogs poop doesnt smell as bad as the rest of the dog's poop.
Originally Posted by AJT123
It's a shame because those Caddy interiors were super nice, just assembled horrendously.
I gave up on GM after replacing the windshield washer pump for the nth time on my ’84 Camaro in the 90s. The plastic impeller inside would just fall apart almost annually. It was so aggravating to replace it constantly. Such a minor part GM couldn’t get right. I don’t remember ever dealing with that piece on another car ever since.
Well, that and the starter that would get overheated and not work.
Thats like saying one dogs poop doesnt smell as bad as the rest of the dog's poop.
With all due respect, you're exaggerating it somewhat. Back in those days, when you paid extra for a Cadillac, you generally got something for your money, although not to the extent of what was the case decades earlier, when the Cadillac slogan was the "Standard of the World".
That issue with the power pull down was notorious, people would slam the trunks and it would jam the pull down mechanism and that would happen
Gets back to what I said earlier in another thread.....some people don't understand how automotive systems work. I myself am no exception.....while I am more educated than average in the automotive field, there are a number things on today's cars I don't mess with (Android, Apple-Car-Play, Alexa, Bluetooth, Advanced-NAV, etc....) simply because of their complexity and the fact that I don't understand how some of it works.